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Post by aslefshrugged on Dec 14, 2018 7:43:13 GMT
commuter Thank you for the correction, I've been away from stations for 15 years and my memory is a bit hazy on the details. I didn't even know the LFEPA no longer existed!
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Post by aslefshrugged on Dec 14, 2018 7:38:44 GMT
So are Elephant & Castle drivers stabling trains early at Stonebridge Park or Queen's Park then travelling back "on the cushions" to book off at the other end of the line?
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Post by aslefshrugged on Dec 14, 2018 7:34:30 GMT
What is the cost of free travel for the yoof of London and pensioners and anyone else who qualifies for free travel? Who pays TfL for that? Free travel doesn't actually cost anything as the buses and trains would be running anyway. You could argue that charging pensioners and the rest could create extra revenue but its likely that people would make fewer journeys if their free travel was withdrawn. Its like the erroneous argument that free travel for staff and dependents costs TfL the equivalent of a Zone 1-6 Annual Travelcard, I use my Staff Pass mostly to travel within Zones 3, 4 and 5 but most working days I only use it on two single bus journeys to work and back again.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Dec 13, 2018 10:05:00 GMT
Chris M Thank you I remembered from my H&S Rep days that it was Section 12 of some Act but couldn't remember which. Also the 1989 Regulations were replaced by the 2009 Regulations. brigham Something to do with staffing levels, not sure what as its RMT Bakerloo station staff and I'm ASLEF Central Line train crew rtt1928 Indeed, all "Section 12s" have a minimum staffing level set by the London Fire and Emergency Planning Authority (LFEPA), from memory its enough staff to physically clear the station in 5 minutes. This can vary from somewhere like Temple where the minimum is two staff (one of who is a "supervisor" or whatever today's equivalent is) all the way up to Kings Cross which on a weekday starts with a minimum of 11 staff (with three supervisors!!!) then rises to 19 between 7:30am and 8pm then back down to 11 until close of traffic.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Dec 12, 2018 19:56:58 GMT
"Section 12" is the term used for any station subject to the Fire Precautions (Sub Surface Railway Stations) Regulations 1989. "Section 12" actually refers to the bit of the Railways Act (can't remember which one) that allows amendments by the Secretary of State for Transport.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Dec 12, 2018 19:09:18 GMT
This is station staff not train drivers although that won't help much as all the stations south of Queens Park are Section 12s.
Bakerloo stations are Elephant & Castle, Lambeth North, Charing Cross, Piccadilly Circus, Oxford Circus, Regents Park, Marylebone, Edgware Road, Warwick Avenue, Maida Vale and Kilburn Park.
Waterloo, Embankment, Baker Street and Paddington will all be open as they're staffed by other lines.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Dec 12, 2018 14:46:39 GMT
Passenger numbers have remained high during the morning and evening peaks, the drop has been in off peak and weekend travel. This has been attributed to various factors, a drop in the level of wages compared to prices meaning that people have less disposable income so are staying in rather than going out and the rise in online sales leading to a decline in people going out shopping.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Dec 12, 2018 12:42:37 GMT
TfL doesn't invest in rolling stock on London Overground, currently its leased by Arriva Rail London from Angel Trains, Eversholt Rail Group or QW Rail Leasing. There was a business case for the takeover published somewhere, I doubt TfL would have been pushing for it unless they were 99.9% sure it would generate revenue.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Dec 12, 2018 9:20:17 GMT
Quintuple whammy.
The number of journeys has fallen across the UK especially in the off peak so fare revenues are down all over (see Virgin East Coast) although London hasn't been as bad as the rest of the country, possibly a result of the fares freeze.
Then there's the loss of revenue due to Crossrail opening late which they were banking on to at least fill some of the hole in the budget.
Also not transferring Southeastern, South West, Southern and Great Northern "Metro" services to London Overground which had been agreed with Cameron/Osborne but was scrapped by Grayling, how much would that have added to TfL's coffers?
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 19, 2018 22:39:26 GMT
Left Epping about 9:40pm, breathed a sigh of relief when I wasn't held outside Woodford by the RAT reversing off plat. 2 as I have been numerous times before but then as I approached Leytonstone I saw a red signal ahead. Sure enough it was the RAT reversing off plat. 2.
I missed my bus.
Perception?
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 19, 2018 14:56:06 GMT
Not THE last trip of the day, MY last trip of the day, regardless of when my last trip is. It knows I'm there...
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 19, 2018 14:02:36 GMT
Probably the Rail Adhesion Train, I keep getting delayed by it, usually when I'm on my last trip.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 19, 2018 13:59:07 GMT
Rather than "joined up thinking" (whatever that means) and "common sense" (ditto) we need a single management board made up of professionals with railway or infrastructure experience to take control of all aspects of running the railways. What we have at the moment is career civil servants at the DfT (all hoping that if they serve their time at one of the lesser Ministries they'll eventually get promoted to the Treasury or Home Office) with little if any actual railway experience making decisions for a system that is hopelessly fragmented between at least three dozen different companies all trying to squeeze as much profit out of the system as they can.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 17, 2018 12:20:10 GMT
I'm not sure if its a question of "an "end game" with the reliability with the 172s" or rather its a similar situation to when the Central Line introduced Working Timetable 67 in 2013. On the Central Line increased frequency in the off peak and at weekends meant that the 1992s weren't spending as much time in depots and sidings which meant that the train maintainers didn't have enough time to work on them which in turn meant trains were developing faults while in service. The difference with the current situation is that rather than an increased frequency there are two fewer trains on the Goblin but no one could have predicted how the 172s would hold up until they actually tried it.
luacton - I heard the problem with the 710s was that the pantograph was dropping under certain conditions due to a software glitch. Not sure if there were any other problems.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 16, 2018 19:49:14 GMT
The 172s are having toilets fitted as they'll be making longer journeys on West Midlands than on the GOBLIN.
You can blame Arriva or TfL as they have no control over electrification and new stock deliveries. Bombardier have to carry the can for the rolling stock problems, Network Rail and J S Murphy & Sons joint responsibility for the delays to electrification.
Also remember that TfL can't just change the timetables, that has to be done with Network Rail and the other users - freight and C2C.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 16, 2018 4:38:36 GMT
According to my source at LO if the 710s aren't ready by 31 December there will be a replacement bus service on the Goblin but TfL won't announce it until they have to.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 15, 2018 9:34:31 GMT
More likely a new recruit "on the handle" starting their four weeks "Road" training with an Instructor Operator.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 13, 2018 19:42:57 GMT
Most strange. Please could you check from 0900 to 0930 - he is quite a late arriving person coming in from darkest Essex. It was definitely a Circle Line service he picked up at Liverpool Street. Commuters being creatures of great habit, they all ended up looking very confused at Baker Street - he said - having ended up at a platform most had never seen before. Might as well have been Platform 9 3/4 !
Thought, before GoldenArrow's post, that someone had taken 'a wrong un'.
Just a thought, would the controller have had to renumber the Circle Line service before the system would send it up the Met to reverse in p2? I've checked Trackernet Replayer from 09:00 to 09:45 but still can't see a train with a 200 or 170 number going to platform 2. Ask your mate roughly when he got on, I'll follow the trains to see if maybe one was renumbered.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 13, 2018 15:02:15 GMT
On the Central Line the boards on the platform and Trackernet get their information from the signal system not from the destination displayed by the train, I assume its the same on others lines. Its not unknown for trains to go westbound with Epping or Hainault via Newbury Park on the front by mistake but the platform boards and Trackernet will be showing the correct destination.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 13, 2018 9:56:03 GMT
Stratford isn't a Section 12 station and therefore doesn't have a minimum staffing level.
The only alternative to having a member of staff on the faulty car is for the SOO to issue a waiver.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 12, 2018 23:42:47 GMT
I watched Trackernet replayer from 05:00 to 09:00, nothing other than Metropolitan Line "400" trains arriving on Plat. 2. while all the Circle and H&C "170s" and "200s" went to Plat.6.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 11, 2018 9:41:07 GMT
Unless the Network Incident Response Manager (NIRM) authorised a "waiver" which would allow the train to be moved without another member of staff on board then it stays where it is until assistance arrives. NIRMs aren't permitted to issue waivers. The only person who can authorise a real-time deviation to the Rule Book is the Senior Operating Officer. (Concessions can be sought in advance for specific planned circumstances.) Indeed, its the SOO not the NIRM although with the way LUL like to shuffle things around it will be another abbreviation in a few years' time.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 10, 2018 19:35:08 GMT
Unless the Network Incident Response Manager (NIRM) authorised a "waiver" which would allow the train to be moved without another member of staff on board then it stays where it is until assistance arrives.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 10, 2018 10:00:22 GMT
There's a door interlock override switch, the train goes out of service with a member of staff (usually a CSA) in the car with the fault and if any of the doors come open they pull the passenger emergency alarm.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 8, 2018 2:35:09 GMT
Video by Londonist on what is going on
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 7, 2018 8:55:10 GMT
The quick cheap answer to the temperatures on the Central line is to dig cross tunnels to the old Post Office railway, adjacent at several locations and install fans. I've said it before several times but can't get anyone to listen. I know that Whitehall once had a plan to use it as an escape route in case of etc etc, but to hell with the lot of em! The Post Office Railway opened as a tourist attraction last year. www.postalmuseum.org/discover/attractions/mail-rail-ride/
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 6, 2018 17:42:29 GMT
I see the usual fake news is going around, linking this strike to a sacked driver who allegedly opened train doors in a tunnel. The sacking was added to a load of grievances that have been brewing for months. It was the first train out of Hainault, the driver was doing a night duty, the train overshot Wanstead westbound in ATO by a car and a bit so he was wrong to open the doors. It was his first error in 25 years as a Train Op, his director's appeal was rejected on Friday and now its going to tribunal.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 6, 2018 14:55:31 GMT
I worked on stations for five years before I transferred to trains and very little of my experience during that time helped me as a Train Operator apart from being used to making PAs. The only advantage of hiring from within that I can see is that recruits will be used to shift work and travelling across London in staff taxis for dead late finishes or dead early starts.
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 6, 2018 13:11:02 GMT
Talking to some people at work about this today, one mentioned that unions limit how many staff TfL/LU are allowed to hire (e.g. drivers, etc) - is there any truth in this and if so how much of an effect would that have? Absolute rubbish, the unions want more staff because they're potential members. One of the issues for the strike is understaffing. Another bit of rubbish is the claim that the unions insist that only existing TfL/LUL staff can apply for train operators jobs (inaccurately called a "closed shop" by those who don't know what a "closed shop" is) , ASLEF actually would prefer new recruits from outside TfL as existing employees are most likely RMT members already
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 5, 2018 13:19:58 GMT
Its being demolished for HS2 along with the Bree Louise
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