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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 15:46:19 GMT
It is because the escalators between the Northern and Piccadilly lines are "up" only at the moment But then why is the sign telling you to use the new ticket hall and not the old one? and why does the arrow point towards platform 8? Possibly because you can't reach the Northern Line platforms from the old ticket hall?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 16:45:52 GMT
Possibly because you can't reach the Northern Line platforms from the old ticket hall? Yes, so should the sign be above the entrance to the old Ticket Hall? I suspect that it's been put in the wrong place as it points right
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 18:03:24 GMT
There is. A giant 6 foot high sign on the overhang above the gateline. Look up when you approach the gates.
I'm presuming the incorrect sign pointing to platform 8 is a whiteboard poster?
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Post by Tomcakes on Dec 31, 2009 23:35:55 GMT
The new entrance has plenty of posters on the station saying "Underground - Northern|Victoria|Piccadilly lines". You then walk down the steps towards it and see a huge sign saying "NO ENTRY TO THE NORTHERN LINE". Joined up thinking?
(I am fully aware that someone will say it's alright because LU put one sign up, and BR put the other sign up, and changing the signs takes a whole 5 minutes).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2010 23:17:01 GMT
When I went through Kings Cross last night I had a look at these signs.
If entering the station from the old entrance, there are the large signs informing you about the Northern Line.
There is then another sign located half way along the walkway that is visible if you go down the stairs from Platform 8.
And of course if you enter the station via platforms 9-11 entrance you would use the North ticket hall anway.
TC, I don't understand where these signs are that you describe?
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Post by mrfs42 on Jan 1, 2010 23:22:21 GMT
Yeah - I've seen the sign TC mentiones - it is a HUGE banner across the ticket hall at ceiling level.
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Post by Tomcakes on Jan 1, 2010 23:34:27 GMT
When I went through Kings Cross last night I had a look at these signs. If entering the station from the old entrance, there are the large signs informing you about the Northern Line. There is then another sign located half way along the walkway that is visible if you go down the stairs from Platform 8. And of course if you enter the station via platforms 9-11 entrance you would use the North ticket hall anway. TC, I don't understand where these signs are that you describe? I may be describing them badly, since every time I go through that damned station has part of it changed. Imagine you're walking down from one of the platforms used by InterCity services. You pass to the RHS of the block which has on the opposite side the departure board. In front of you is one of the old entrances. You turn 90 degrees right, and there is an entrance signposted for access to all 3 lines, but then with a huge banner saying "No access to the Northern line". I would also add that I hope that, after having had what must be a small fortune spent on this refurbishment, the station becomes more reliable and less prone to closure owing to overcrowding. It's good to see more ticket windows opening though, the queues at the current ones are pathetic.
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Post by memorex on Jan 2, 2010 0:25:11 GMT
I think this is the one your talking about: It's the new entrance from Kings Cross plats 1-8? If so... fair enough, it says no access to northern line, when you go down there for the northern line... so it could have been worded letter... but it doesn't just say that, it says access via new ticket hall with an arrow to the right - which is correct, you go down and turn right for the northern... I think it's actually there to tell people not just to treat it as a new entrance to the tube ticket hall - (turn left) - as you now cannot get to the northern from there..?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2010 8:52:40 GMT
From what I've seen all the signs at KX are factually correct. Perhaps some could be worded differently, some could be sighted differently. From experience a sizeable % of passengers don't read the signs anyway, instead complaining and claiming that there are no such signs.
The good news, as TC has said, more ticket office windows and less closures is surely a massive benefit.
Coming through KX over the Christmas period at 9am and the queue for the ticket office and the passenger machines is just silly. The money that is being generated for TfL must keep the accountants very happy though ;D
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Post by Tomcakes on Jan 2, 2010 9:14:47 GMT
And, of course, the people who make decisions about opening windows, allocating extra staff etc have probably never bought a tube ticket in their life!
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Post by North End on Jan 2, 2010 18:12:04 GMT
From what I've seen all the signs at KX are factually correct. Perhaps some could be worded differently, some could be sighted differently. From experience a sizeable % of passengers don't read the signs anyway, instead complaining and claiming that there are no such signs. The sign above the Plat1-8 stairs is definitely not correct. From my perspective, the information conveyed is: ~ No entry to the Northern Line via these stairs. ~ To get to the Northern Line, turn right at the bottom of these stairs. Today I noticed a lot of confused people, "Northern Line is this way, er no it's not, er where do we go?", so obviously as well as incorrect it's also confusing. I'm sure this sign has been devised by some department at 55 Broadway, Investment Communications or similar, and someone probably spent a whole month researching the best signage for this closure. Because Investment Communications can't possibly be wrong, no one's probably allowed to take it down.
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Post by Tomcakes on Jan 3, 2010 7:30:10 GMT
Why? Surely someone at a local level could decide that it gives out erroneous information and cover it up - rather than ignoring it and leaving it there?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2010 19:07:14 GMT
That's exactly the signage I meant. It fails on many levels:
*it's above the entrance to the new ticket hall, but then says to use the new ticket hall, so can you access it from there or not? *not everyone knows which is the new and which is the old *the arrow makes it look like the way to get to the northern line is to the right somewhere within Kings Cross... and not down those stairs
I too saw lots of head scratching and people turning round hen they saw it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2010 11:32:56 GMT
I am still very confused by this. I wanted to get from Victoria Line NB to Northern Line NB two weeks ago or so (fell asleep and missed my change at Euston), and was lead all the way through the new tunnels by the signs... it took a whole lot longer but seems to be what the signage wants me to do.
From that image it looks like any LUL to LUL interchange would be quickest without using any part of the new ticket hall.
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