Passengers on Kennington loop

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Dec 23, 2011 19:41:10 GMT @mappman1000 said:

Also did it with Ken, and was wondering what the mileage was from Kennington - Kennington around the loop?

I just added it as about 51ch

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I did the K-loop a few weeks ago. It's interesting. The driver kept making PAs to 'all change here' but some woman pointed at us from outside the train. He just kept making PAs then gave up and so we rode the loop.

I tried again a week or so ago, with another friend, but they were detraining. Do they detrain in the peaks?

[Chris M]

There is also a siding at Kennington that can be used to reverse trains, and I'm not aware that the normal rules about passengers in sidings do not apply here. Why the siding would be used rather than the loop I don't know, but it's possible.

[phillw48]

Dec 28, 2011 18:10:34 GMT Chris M said:

There is also a siding at Kennington that can be used to reverse trains, and I'm not aware that the normal rules about passengers in sidings do not apply here. Why the siding would be used rather than the loop I don't know, but it's possible.

It could be because at one time ts was 'handed' and could not be turned.

[norbitonflyer]

The Northern, and before it the CCEHR, had turning loops for most of their history, and all stocks up to 1959 were handed. (the 72 stock was able to couple either end of the 4 car to the UNDM of a three car).

The presence of both the reversing siding and the loop would allow trains to return north in a different order to that in which they arrived.

The reversing siding also gives access from and to the Bank branch, which the loop does not

[North End]

Dec 28, 2011 18:10:34 GMT Chris M said:

There is also a siding at Kennington that can be used to reverse trains, and I'm not aware that the normal rules about passengers in sidings do not apply here. Why the siding would be used rather than the loop I don't know, but it's possible.

Normally the siding might be used if a train is out of its normal path, for example running early and being held until its correct time, or if a train has run south via the City branch or is to run north that way, or for training reasons (a trainee may need to visit the siding as part of their training, or occasionally someone may request to go in their for familiarisation reasons). Lastly there's also a booked rusty rail move late at night.

I would also add that there are one or two drivers who will detain before going round the loop. Either those who have issues with the current procedure, or those who have had bad experienced with passengers in there. Not an issue as long as it doesn't result in a delay!

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I read this thread a couple of weeks ago, and as I travel through Waterloo every week I thought I'd do the loop and put the video on youtube.
It's not the greatest quality, and you can't see much of the tunnel out of the windows: