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Post by matthewbsstock on Aug 4, 2024 12:36:58 GMT
just wondering how much is now automic opeartion?
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Post by d7666 on Aug 4, 2024 13:18:30 GMT
just wondering how much is now automic opeartion? Since you are a new member a re-cap is worth it rather than point to numerous other posts : - all Circle - all Hammersmith & City - District Upminster west to around Barons Court and around Parsons Green - Metroplolitan Aldgate to around Finchley Road This is quite a long detailed thread, actually picking out the present state is not that easy for someone new coming into it now, hence the 4 line summary. Exact details of the ATO boundaries have to search for.
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Post by d7666 on Aug 4, 2024 13:28:50 GMT
Can somebody explain why they don't just abandon the SWR trains running over the LU track and then just allow the LU track to be properly signalled all the way to Wimbledon? Because it provides access to the depot at Wimbledon without impacting capacity on the main line out of Waterloo. Possibly more important than actual capacity is the NR Main Lines and Windsor Lines split; there is no running line connection at Clapham Junction between the two *** and Waterloo West Crossings are impractical being right in Waterloo throat generate too many conflicting movements to be of use in this respect. The East Putney route is the only Wimbledon depot access from the Windsor lines. This is /one/ of the reasons, of several, for the recent EMU berthing sidings at Feltham i.e. on the Windsor lines (although that is also related to relieving berthing at Clapham Yard. I am not sure about this these days but it used to be those few Wimbledon depot ECS trains that do use the East Putney route are those to and from actual maintenance - as opposed to those simply for berthing or cleaning. *** yes there are points and crossing through Clapham Yard but these are not running lines, they are through sidings, even if they look like it in your Quail atlas, to move a train right across there more or less requires all other yard movements to halt - and - for the track bashers - why no railtour ever does it - even if a route through it could be manually clipped scotched and locked.
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Post by matthewbsstock on Aug 4, 2024 13:29:26 GMT
just wondering how much is now automic opeartion? Since you are a new member a re-cap is worth it rather than point to numerous other posts : - all Circle - all Hammersmith & City - District Upminster west to around Barons Court and around Parsons Green - Metroplolitan Aldgate to around Finchley Road This is quite a long detailed thread, actually picking out the present state is not that easy for someone new coming into it now, hence the 4 line summary. Exact details of the ATO boundaries have to search for. thanks so much so in short most of it
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Post by t697 on Aug 4, 2024 19:46:51 GMT
Just to refine what's already been stated, the Boundary stations where the change from Tripcock mode operation to/from ATC happens are currently Finchley Road, Barons Court and Fulham Broadway.
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Post by ijmad on Aug 5, 2024 0:19:03 GMT
One wonders if Crossrail 2 were ever built, if the pressure it would remove from the mainline might be enough to stop having to use this link.
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Post by andypurk on Aug 5, 2024 1:53:44 GMT
Because it provides access to the depot at Wimbledon without impacting capacity on the main line out of Waterloo. Possibly more important than actual capacity is the NR Main Lines and Windsor Lines split; there is no running line connection at Clapham Junction between the two *** and Waterloo West Crossings are impractical being right in Waterloo throat generate too many conflicting movements to be of use in this respect. The East Putney route is the only Wimbledon depot access from the Windsor lines. This is /one/ of the reasons, of several, for the recent EMU berthing sidings at Feltham i.e. on the Windsor lines (although that is also related to relieving berthing at Clapham Yard. I am not sure about this these days but it used to be those few Wimbledon depot ECS trains that do use the East Putney route are those to and from actual maintenance - as opposed to those simply for berthing or cleaning. *** yes there are points and crossing through Clapham Yard but these are not running lines, they are through sidings, even if they look like it in your Quail atlas, to move a train right across there more or less requires all other yard movements to halt - and - for the track bashers - why no railtour ever does it - even if a route through it could be manually clipped scotched and locked. There are also the connections either side of Queenstown Road Battersea which are used on occasion. Between the peaks, as opposed to the start and end of the day, the East Putney route is mainly used for services to Wimbledon Depot from the high numbered Waterloo platforms. Trains heading from the Depot to Waterloo generally run via Earlsfield due to possible conflicts at Point Pleasant Junction. Given that they run straight out onto the Up Fast there are less issues with crossing over to the Windsor lines than in the other direction.
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Post by 35b on Aug 5, 2024 7:39:30 GMT
One wonders if Crossrail 2 were ever built, if the pressure it would remove from the mainline might be enough to stop having to use this link. I'd be a wee bit surprised, as I'd expect that to relieve the slow lines - and the issues are about the Windsor and fast lines.
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Post by tomd on Aug 5, 2024 12:17:13 GMT
Forgive my naïvety, but couldn't trains on the Windsor line use the Richmond-Kingston loop to get to Wimbledon and into the depot, rather than having to use the LU line from East Putney?
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Post by Chris L on Aug 7, 2024 10:22:31 GMT
Isn't the route via East Putney used as a diversion route during weekend engineering work?
I'm fairly sure I was on a train that used it one weekend.
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