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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 6, 2017 6:27:57 GMT
Due to a low speed derailment of a South Western Railway passenger train, just east of Wimbledon, services are likely to be suspended Parsons Green-Wimbledon for the remainder of day.
One District train stuck in Wimbledon pfm.1, another at East Putney DOWN and one at Putney Bridge WB.
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Post by wimblephil on Nov 6, 2017 7:11:27 GMT
Lots of Police, plus a couple of Fire Crews and Ambulances present when I passed via NR this morning, although nothing too series (in dramatic terms) seems to have occurred with just the tail end of the train on one set of tracks and the vast majority of the train on another... Seems to have been one of the few trains that passes via the District line in passenger service. A lot of people still stuck on the train, so do spare a thought if like me your commute was disrupted!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 7:58:05 GMT
The SWT service is running according to the BBC News site
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Post by wimblephil on Nov 6, 2017 8:12:05 GMT
One District train stuck in Wimbledon pfm.1, another at East Putney DOWN and one at Putney Bridge WB. I think I saw 2 trains stuck at Wimbledon platforms...?
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Post by wimblephil on Nov 6, 2017 8:18:24 GMT
The SWT service is running according to the BBC News site The derailment occurred on the District up, just outside Wimbledon station. So I would have thought the SWT services should be largely unaffected, although they were announcing delays were a consequence at Clapham Junction... London Overground was certainly full to the point I couldn’t board at 7:15!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 8:37:07 GMT
All services around Wimbledon were blocked and of course until other protection processes were put in place the normal SWT service couldn’t run
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Post by goldenarrow on Nov 6, 2017 9:09:38 GMT
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Post by MoreToJack on Nov 6, 2017 9:19:19 GMT
A more accurate description would be "broken train *off* track".
A clearer picture showing the issue.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 6, 2017 9:30:34 GMT
i think I saw 2 trains stuck at Wimbledon platforms...? Well noticed! one in platform 4 also.
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Post by brooklynbound on Nov 6, 2017 16:56:16 GMT
Significantly more passengers are affected by this than would have been before Putney Bridge was remodelled. Stopping the trains short at Parsons Green means no connection to a major bus hub at Putney Bridge. I understood that under the new arrangements, trains could still be turned at Putney Bridge. Surely at the very least they could do every other service that way?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 6, 2017 17:26:40 GMT
Significantly more passengers are affected by this than would have been before Putney Bridge was remodelled. Stopping the trains short at Parsons Green means no connection to a major bus hub at Putney Bridge. I understood that under the new arrangements, trains could still be turned at Putney Bridge. Surely at the very least they could do every other service that way? Unfortunately, the new arrangement doesn't allow reversing at Putney Bridge. ( my train was stalled in the westbound platform from 06.04 until the decision was made to leave trains where they were, at 08.45)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 17:27:38 GMT
Putney Bridge can not be used as a reversing point anymore & I think the reversing set of points at East Putney were removed also
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Post by brooklynbound on Nov 6, 2017 17:40:32 GMT
Sounds like a classic failure of joined up thinking in terms of continuing journeys by public transport. Ironic when Tfl have just spent cash doing up the bus area at Putney Bridge station yet again.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 6, 2017 17:52:12 GMT
Carto metro shows a crossover just beyond East Putney, but maybe this was unavaiable because of the need to get a breakdown train through to Wimbledon via Point Pleasant? OIr maybe because the traction current had to be turned off between Wimbledon and East Putney?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 6, 2017 17:57:03 GMT
Carto metro shows a crossover just beyond East Putney, but maybe this was unavaiable because of the need to get a breakdown train through to Wimbledon via Point Pleasant? OIr maybe because the traction current had to be turned off between Wimbledon and East Putney? this crossover was removed in December 2016, Carto-Metro have been advised on many recent LU changes but have not yet implemented them.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 6, 2017 18:07:00 GMT
this crossover [south of East Putney] was removed in December 2016, Carto-Metro have been advised on many recent LU changes but have not yet implemented them. However, CM does show the new layout at Putney Bridge, which also came into use in 2016. Did I imagine it, or was there also a crossover actually on the bridge (i.e north of East Putney) at one time?
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Post by rincew1nd on Nov 6, 2017 18:27:50 GMT
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 6, 2017 18:31:57 GMT
Did I imagine it, or was there also a crossover actually on the bridge (i.e north of East Putney) at one time? Not on the bridge but when I started on the Line there was a ground frame crossover just east of East Putney, within a trains length of the LT platforms.
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Post by londonboi1985 on Nov 6, 2017 18:50:36 GMT
The crossover on Putney Bridge was removed when the new track layout was installed.
The cross over at East Putney is still in place and is manually worked via the ground frame and requires a handle signal person to operate it and authorise trains to traverse etc. It has not been used for years
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Post by paulsw2 on Nov 6, 2017 19:15:47 GMT
The crossover on Putney Bridge was removed when the new track layout was installed. The cross over at East Putney is still in place and is manually worked via the ground frame and requires a handle signal person to operate it and authorise trains to traverse etc. It has not been used for years That crossover has also gone the points at East Putney are for NR moves only
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Post by londonboi1985 on Nov 6, 2017 19:25:12 GMT
The crossover on Putney Bridge was removed when the new track layout was installed. The cross over at East Putney is still in place and is manually worked via the ground frame and requires a handle signal person to operate it and authorise trains to traverse etc. It has not been used for years That crossover has also gone the points at East Putney are for NR moves only Sorry my bad getting my points mixed up you are correct
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Post by t697 on Nov 6, 2017 19:44:59 GMT
There was a plan to install a new scissors crossover a bit to the west of Parsons Green that would allow Putney Bridge to be used as a terminus for trains from London and this would have been signalled in ATC. It's still a long term aspiration I think, but not in current work scopes.
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Post by roman80 on Nov 6, 2017 19:53:51 GMT
Any idea on the chances of service restoration by tomorrow? I take it a lot of trains will be out of position even if the track is deemed ok by morning.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 20:40:44 GMT
Any idea on the chances of service restoration by tomorrow? I take it a lot of trains will be out of position even if the track is deemed ok by morning. It will be only the trains stuck west of Parsons Green if any are any still down the branch of course
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Post by superteacher on Nov 6, 2017 21:04:10 GMT
Were Wimbledon trains being held in Parsons Green sidings until their booked departure? If so, that’s a long layover. Saw that some trains were being diverted to Olympia.
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Post by scheduler on Nov 6, 2017 21:18:34 GMT
Were Wimbledon trains being held in Parsons Green sidings until their booked departure? If so, that’s a long layover. Saw that some trains were being diverted to Olympia. From what I could see on trackernet Wimbledon trains were diverted pretty much everywhere: there were definitely some waiting in the Parsons Green sidings, I saw some going to Ealing Broadway and some to Kensington Olympia. My guess is that they will probably have done 1 in 4 to Ealing, 1 in 4 to Kensington and 2 in 4 wait it out at Parsons Green, but I couldn't watch it for long enough to figure out if that was what happened.
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Post by londoner on Nov 6, 2017 21:32:28 GMT
The most important thing is that no one required any hospital treatment
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Post by goldenarrow on Nov 6, 2017 22:40:58 GMT
District line service info are saying that they do not expect the service suspension between Parsons Green and Wimbledon to be lifted before the start of traffic on Tuesday.
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Post by MoreToJack on Nov 6, 2017 23:00:47 GMT
District line service info are saying that they do not expect the service suspension between Parsons Green and Wimbledon to be lifted before the start of traffic on Tuesday. So exactly what has been being said all day then, since at least 0700.
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Post by Colin on Nov 6, 2017 23:08:31 GMT
Itake it a lot of trains will be out of position even if the track is deemed ok by morning. There’s only 4 S stock trains trapped so there shouldn’t be much of an issue in terms of the line’s stock balance. Were Wimbledon trains being held in Parsons Green sidings until their booked departure? If so, that’s a long layover. Saw that some trains were being diverted to Olympia. Generally speaking, the Edgware Road service went to Olympia and the “City” service was reversed at Parsons Green. Trains were regulated at Fulham Broadway as required.
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