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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2005 23:58:31 GMT
I have been watching 225 Studios DVD of the East London and Metropolitan Line Wembley Park to Watford DEV's Far superior to Video 125's p*ss poor effort 'incidentally'. No camera shake or someone waffling on 'etcetera' to spoil it all. As DT says, the two companies are producing for two different markets, those who want a cab ride and for those who want that little bit more. Personally I find 225 studio DVDs rather boring as they are like a silent movie, Video 125s productions hve that edge, which makes them that little bit more professional..... My vote is with V125.... |
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Post by chris on Dec 14, 2005 7:59:32 GMT
I think as Met App says they are for 2 different markets. I like V125 as they have some commentry and as i have limited railway knowledge, I can pick up new things. The way you get a "fly by" view is quite good as well. I suppose those who work on the railways know all about the signals, what signs mean and all the rules and regulations, but for people like me it's useful to have some commentry!
Also, i'd say that V225 are very cheaply made. The weather conditions are not always ideal and this makes things on the track a little harder to see. Sometimes you get a reflection of the camera man, or a conversation between a camera man and the T/Op.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2005 18:44:47 GMT
It would seem that Q8's post has been deleted. Any idea what Video 225's website is?
Does anyone have any idea if any of their DEV's are available from Ian Allen, in Waterloo?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2005 18:53:48 GMT
Theres a good selection of the 225 studio DVD in the Transport Museum Shop. I *think* that they are also available in the Ian Allan bookshop. I think the company is based in Sawbridgeworth, Herfordshire. Try a google search...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2005 19:03:27 GMT
Cheers T/op 92
The Transport Museum shop's shut now, along with the museum isn't it??
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Post by Christopher J on Dec 25, 2005 19:27:28 GMT
The Transport Museum shop's shut now, along with the museum isn't it?? No, there's a shop opened across the road for the LTM - see here www.ltmuseum.co.uk/shop/coventgarden.shtmlI believe what they plan to do is keep the shop where it is now so they have more space inside the museum itself. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2005 20:17:26 GMT
Ah, but the current shop is a little on the small side...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2005 21:27:43 GMT
I can see part of Q8's deleted post quoted at the top - I can't see why anyone would say 225's better than 125. 125's videos are professionaly done in my opinion and the 225 Wimble - Upminster VHS I bought a little while was very blurry in comparison to the latest 125 one and the camera was tilted to one side.
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Post by Phil on Dec 25, 2005 21:54:54 GMT
Depends what you want. If it's simple 'route knowledge' then Solidbond's DVDs knock spots off ALL the opposition. If you just want entertainment then it's 125 or 225 according to your taste.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2005 22:34:57 GMT
The only real reason that i'm interested in 225 is that its got my route from Liverpool Street - Shenfield as a DEV  Also, does anyone know if any driver here (or anywhere) is planning on doing a new SB style DEV of their particular line? Eg - T/op 92 would do Central, Seniorpicc would do Picc etc. ?? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2005 6:25:33 GMT
I'd like to see an up-to-date Central DEV, with perhaps a little commentary about the ATO system as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2005 17:50:01 GMT
I'd like to see an up-to-date Central DEV, with perhaps a little commentary about the ATO system as well. Ha!!! Do you want waffle, technospeak, or plain English [that'll be a challenge]  We'll have to see what we can do, won't we??? |
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Post by Phil on Dec 26, 2005 23:53:16 GMT
Do it Solidbond's way - SILENCE! (but with switchable subtitles)
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Post by Tubeboy on Apr 5, 2006 14:50:15 GMT
spoke to video 125 earlier today and they said the bulk of their customers did not want an option choice regarding the commentary. They said the commentary is integral to the film, the analogy they used was reading a paper with no pictures. Waiting for solidbonds dvds and compare the difference.  |
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Post by CSLR on Apr 5, 2006 16:31:15 GMT
spoke to video 125 earlier today and they said the bulk of their customers did not want an option choice regarding the commentary. They said the commentary is integral to the film, the analogy they used was reading a paper with no pictures. Waiting for solidbonds dvds and compare the difference. The bulk of their customers may well want a commentary, but does the video company not want to attract new customers? Having a facility to turn the commentary on or off (very simple on a DVD) would allow them to appeal to a larger market. Still, it is none of our business if they are doing so well that they do not need to expand their customer base. |
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Post by mowat on Apr 7, 2006 12:31:07 GMT
I think that at the end of the day we are very lucky that Video 125/225 Studios do London Underground DEV's at all and we should be thankfull for what we have got!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2006 20:42:09 GMT
One thing puzzles me about 225. If V125 are being charged £300 p/h to film, how can 225 afford to make their films?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2006 20:56:03 GMT
Maybe they blagged their way into some poor T/Op's cab  ? From the apparent quality of their camera work, it doesn't sound like it's any more professional than that! Note: I am in no way saying that this is what 225 actually do! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2006 21:06:39 GMT
But, by releasing the video, means that, should 'someone in high authority' see this video, then, by working out the time of day, train movements etc, they can work out who allowed them into the cab. An innocent clock 'in view' can give this away too. ANY T/Op knows that 'officially' no unauthorised persons are allowed in the driving cab. Passing trains would have also undoubtedly seen a camera/another person in the cab, or the Op was given an 'advance' by a rep from 225, and did the recoding himself. I have seen the 225 prods and think the quality is a bit naff, but this is just my thinking and my opinion.
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Post by CSLR on Apr 7, 2006 21:06:53 GMT
Note: I am in no way saying that this is what 225 actually do! Perhaps the next step will be a company called 325 who shoot out of the back of a train using a mobile phone and then run the sequence in reverse. |
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Post by Tubeboy on Apr 7, 2006 21:17:28 GMT
Very good point david. yes lu do charge £300 per hour for commercial filming, but 225 do the straight run of a line and do not feature lineside shots or stations in depth [unlike v125]. lets not forget that if it didnt make them any money they wouldnt have done so many. The weird paradox is that v125 cab rides are cheaper to buy than 225s despite being technically superior and having[incidentally] rob curlings commentary. This is presumably down to the fact that 125 sell far greater volumes than 225 and their profit margins per disc are lower. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2006 21:17:47 GMT
Hows about a roof or undercarriage mounted one then??? Be ok until you came upto a negi rail that was just a tad too high....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2006 21:31:34 GMT
Very good point david. yes lu do charge £300 per hour for commercial filming, but 225 do the straight run of a line and do not feature lineside shots or stations in depth [unlike v125]. lets not forget that if it didnt make them any money they wouldnt have done so many. The weird paradox is that v125 cab rides are cheaper to buy than 225s despite being technically superior and having[incidentally] rob curlings commentary. This is presumably down to the fact that 125 sell far greater volumes than 225 and their profit margins per disc are lower. 'Video 125' I would imagine, is a sideline of a video production company. |
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Post by DrJimi on Apr 7, 2006 22:16:19 GMT
Perhaps the next step will be a company called 325 who shoot out of the back of a train using a mobile phone and then run the sequence in reverse. ROFL!! You just gave me an idea. Think MSTS and FRAPS... (Wanders off muttering something about Virtual 325...) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2006 9:32:37 GMT
Speaking of ''Virtual 325'', I, when in a very bored moment, have taken to filming a few of my BVE journeys - now that IS sad ;D ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2006 9:51:52 GMT
Speaking of ''Virtual 325'', I, when in a very bored moment, have taken to filming a few of my BVE journeys - now that IS sad ;D ;D I hope you are stopping acurately and observing all speed restrictions, Joe. Film evidence could be used against you at a virtual disciplinary ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2006 15:41:14 GMT
I managed to undershoot at my first station on the Circle (Liverpool Street) so - that was embarrassing! Apart from that, I'd say it was professional driving from me! LOL
Anyone else taken up this pastime?
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Post by chris on Apr 8, 2006 15:57:46 GMT
How can you film yourself on BVE? I've read about it before, but don't know how.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2006 17:22:58 GMT
Get a camcorder, and film yourself (Or at least, that's what I do!!) |
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Post by Colin on Apr 9, 2006 0:12:34 GMT
Get a camcorder, and film yourself (Or at least, that's what I do!!) Did you say that out loud? ;D ;D ;D |
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? From the apparent quality of their camera work, it doesn't sound like it's any more professional than that! 
