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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2008 12:00:33 GMT
Have the C or D Stock got any sign of a sticker over Tower Hill to show the Tower Gateway closure yet, or is t still shown as open ?
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Post by Chris M on Aug 4, 2008 17:37:11 GMT
Oddly Shepherd's Bush has not gained it's ' Market' yet? Another amendment sticker later? I've read somewhere that the name change is going to happen at the same time as the Central Line station re-opens, which isn't due quite yet. |
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Post by johnb on Aug 5, 2008 13:33:07 GMT
At the moment it isn't possible to set up any Train Descriptions for H&C trains until Edgware Road - and there are no plans to change that. ...until ATO comes in, rather than never, presumably? [yes, I'm aware this comment could be taken as optimistic given the 12-ish year delay in Jubilee ATO...] |
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Post by trainopd78 on Aug 12, 2008 22:04:48 GMT
Have the C or D Stock got any sign of a sticker over Tower Hill to show the Tower Gateway closure yet, or is t still shown as open ? Do they heck? It's cheaper to get the driver to make the relevant announcements from the previous station. |
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Post by 21146 on Aug 21, 2008 11:21:02 GMT
Given the obvious expense of the new Wood Lane H&C station (which is certainly not just a little wayside halt as might befit a line with an 8-min service - at present), I'm suprised some form of elevated walkway wasn't provided to link it with White City station without having to exit the UTS gates, as TFL owns all of the land in between. www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/2772255642/sizes/l/www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/2771424693/sizes/l/Mind you it looks a fine job in the "LT tradition" and far superior frankly to some of those in-house jobs done in the 1980s (e.g. West Harrow, Surrey Docks) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2008 17:32:00 GMT
I think that looks pretty nice
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Post by uzairjubilee on Aug 21, 2008 17:47:11 GMT
In reply to pritipal's question,
Some D stock trains now play the announcement 'The next station is Tower Hill. Change for the DLR from Tower Gateway and National Rail services from Fenchurch Street...'
So it is now: 'The next station is Tower Hill. Change for National Rail services from Fenchurch Street.'
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Post by happybunny on Aug 21, 2008 18:20:51 GMT
In reply to pritipal's question, Some D stock trains now play the announcement 'The next station is Tower Hill. Change for the DLR from Tower Gateway and National Rail services from Fenchurch Street...' So it is now: 'The next station is Tower Hill. Change for National Rail services from Fenchurch Street.' Correct .... I don't know why they didn't add "change for circle line" when they were doing it.. idiots ! (And getting rid of exit for tower of London etc would have been a step in the right direction) |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Aug 26, 2008 11:57:18 GMT
Yes I was thinking that on my way to Gatwick Airport on Friday morning.
"Hmmm, they should have made the announcements 'The next station is Tower Hill. Change for the Circle Line via Liverpool Street and King's Cross St Pancras...' "
But maybe they didn't because they have the 'via Lvpl St and KXSP' for the Hammersmith & City Line at Aldgate East.
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Post by Chris M on Aug 26, 2008 12:13:53 GMT
Why not have it at Tower Hill, where you just need to remain on the same platform, rather than Aldgate East where you need to cross over to the other side?
The only passengers who would be disadvantaged would be those travelling beyond Paddington, who really shouldn't be on an eastbound district here anyway - they should have gone via HSK and changed at Paddington or via Earl's Court and changed at Hammersmith.
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Post by 21146 on Sept 17, 2008 20:58:01 GMT
I see the current T/C says October 12th as opening date
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Post by Tom on Sept 17, 2008 22:46:07 GMT
That's the date we've had as a project team for a few weeks now - though I believe that's slipped by a week from the 6th.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2008 16:28:28 GMT
Well they seem to have modified the DVAs now to Shepherd's Bush Market and Wood Lane. Now we have to remember to press the station closed button for it or it'll knacker it up.
It would have been nice if they'd told us about the mod...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2008 23:43:08 GMT
Is it on schedule for opening later today? I had a look on the TfL journey planner, but that recommends walking to Shepherd's Bush (and advises that it will shortly be renamed Shepherd's Bush Market) to get a H&C train from Wood Lane...
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Post by 21146 on Oct 12, 2008 11:27:46 GMT
Well, I've just rung the published number in the T/C and it appears they *are* open, despite what the TfL journey planner suggests...
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Post by Alight on Oct 12, 2008 11:28:48 GMT
Well they seem to have modified the DVAs now to Shepherd's Bush Market and Wood Lane. Now we have to remember to press the station closed button for it or it'll knacker it up. It would have been nice if they'd told us about the mod... I wonder how they managed to persuade Emma to come back and record the new ones? (that is, if Emma is the DVA artist for the modifications) |
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Post by Tom on Oct 12, 2008 12:23:04 GMT
Well they seem to have modified the DVAs now to Shepherd's Bush Market and Wood Lane. Now we have to remember to press the station closed button for it or it'll knacker it up. It would have been nice if they'd told us about the mod... I wonder how they managed to persuade Emma to come back and record the new ones? (that is, if Emma is the DVA artist for the modifications) Simple. They recorded it months, if not years in advance. Remember that the builders have been on site for four years! |
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Post by Alight on Oct 12, 2008 12:26:45 GMT
O right - makes sense I guess (:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2008 13:53:23 GMT
Well, I've just rung the published number in the T/C and it appears they *are* open, despite what the TfL journey planner suggests... I confirm it is indeed open. Not very busy, as you might expect - one other guy taking photos and around a dozen staff on the platforms and in the ticket hall. The design is functional rather than lavish, but has good sightlines and open spaces. |
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Post by 21146 on Oct 12, 2008 17:21:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2008 17:27:46 GMT
Quite eerie - I've just got a new unit on a Bank - Stratford service too! The train captain was talking to another passenger about the new stock, although they're very similar to the old stock people do seem to notice :-)
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Post by Tom on Oct 12, 2008 19:58:41 GMT
Pity about the "lady" in the ticket hall who demanded to know if I had a "permit" for taking photos. Oh, her...  I don't think she liked my response to that question, but the one to "how do I know you're not a terrorist?" managed to shut her up. |
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Post by North End on Oct 12, 2008 21:27:55 GMT
Pity about the "lady" in the ticket hall who demanded to know if I had a "permit" for taking photos. Oh, her... I don't think she liked my response to that question, but the one to "how do I know you're not a terrorist?" managed to shut her up. If it's the one I'm thinking of, I had a similar "conversation". However I was able to pull out a number of items from my pocket, which very quickly made the individual concerned wish she hadn't started the discussion. |
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Post by 21146 on Oct 12, 2008 22:07:38 GMT
Oh, her... I don't think she liked my response to that question, but the one to "how do I know you're not a terrorist?" managed to shut her up. If it's the one I'm thinking of, I had a similar "conversation". However I was able to pull out a number of items from my pocket, which very quickly made the individual concerned wish she hadn't started the discussion. And frankly, as a gay man, I don't see why she should be making assumptions/stereotyping etc of anyone else either. |
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Post by 21146 on Oct 12, 2008 22:42:11 GMT
As an aside, the plans for the Crossrail stations also call for minimal ticket selling facilities for the same reason, most journeys will use the Oyster card. Yes, but the whole burning question is what happens to those (foreign tourists etc.) who don't?? How on earth do they know what to do?? So Oyster will be extended out to Shenfield, Abbey Wood, Reading by then? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2008 23:08:20 GMT
AIUI yes - the Crossrail franchise would be let on the basis of Oyster being available (indeed, the default ticketing) on all routes. Whether that would be at LU rates or a premium rate I don't think has yet been decided.
I have a feeling that the events of the last two weeks and the effects on (in particular) the financial services sector mean that Crossrail simply won't happen, either full-size or tube-size. Better stop now as I'm taking this off-topic!
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Post by 21146 on Oct 12, 2008 23:13:04 GMT
AIUI yes - the Crossrail franchise would be let on the basis of Oyster being available (indeed, the default ticketing) on all routes. Whether that would be at LU rates or a premium rate I don't think has yet been decided. I have a feeling that the events of the last two weeks and the effects on (in particular) the financial services sector mean that Crossrail simply won't happen, either full-size or tube-size. Better stop now as I'm taking this off-topic! I agree with you and note TFL is well scaling back on the GOBLIN station redfurbs so will they end up much better than Silverlink started off with? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2008 0:05:42 GMT
Funnily enough I thought the Goblin stations didn't look much different to the Silverlink days passing through from Barking this evening. The only difference immediately visible from the train was the car-crash graphic design disaster of station signs on poorly lit platforms with black writing on dark orange background! I understand the original white writing on orange was even worse, because the sodium lighting made the white bits appear orange... I know they've installed staff and ticket issuing facilities at all the stations which is certainly a welcome improvement, but beyond that you could well be right - I don't see any of the Goblin stations being brought up to the quality of Wood Lane*, or even DLR stations, in terms of openness, lighting and security. * waves on-topic flag  One correction to my previous post - the premium fares issue on Crossrail *has* been decided - they'll only apply to Heathrow. Otherwise standard zonal fares apply, and, more interesting and relevant (cos Crossrail will probably never happen) the aim is apparantly to harmonise fares within the zones for National Rail and LU for Oyster roll-out next year - so a zone 1-4 single would cost the same whether you used National Rail, Underground or a combination of both. How likely this is to actually happen I don't know, but it would certainly make it much more simple for passengers. We'll really have to pop over to the Overground and Crossrail boards to continue this! ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2008 2:41:22 GMT
I'll use the Wood Lane station over Shepherd's Bush to get to Westfield when it opens, no way am I dealing with the layout at platform level with the shopping! The White City roundel error of sorts is quite funny, they do look out of place. It looks like a nice station, being set in the existing arches is good. Would like to see in the future some art maybe to make the new stations less clinical. There are blank spaces begging for some sort of installation!
I would have thought Crossrail more essential to the UK economy now as we will have to get the confidence back in the financial system and gain an advantage over our rivals. In terms of local issues I also think it may help counter the effect of the two Westfield malls on the West End and suburban centres as both would benefit from developments associated with rebuilt stations as well as the passenger increases.
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Post by ruislip on Oct 13, 2008 4:05:59 GMT
Other items of interest, new "old" roundels outside White City station, even though they never had this 1930s-type since it wasn't opened until 1947! www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/2935061488/sizes/l/I do remember seeing an Esso station just north of White City in my many travels thru there. |
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