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Post by SE13 on Aug 23, 2010 5:14:42 GMT
A single part question today:  *Click image for a larger version* |
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Post by tubeprune on Aug 23, 2010 6:18:45 GMT
This is the tripcock mounted on the rear left of ex-Metropolitan Railway 0-4-4 No. 1 to allow it to run bunker first on LU routes. I'm not quite sure of the exact arrangements but it looks like the vacuum bag on the right. Does anyone know how the steam brake was operated by the tripcock on a loco running light?
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Post by metman on Aug 23, 2010 6:57:49 GMT
Not sure. Is the location Quainton Road?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2010 9:16:30 GMT
As the tripcock is the 'down' position and therefore in use it could be taken on one of the 'Steam on the Met' events. There's clearly a platform behind it so I'm going to have a wild stab at Watford. I'm bracing myself for the egg on my face!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2010 9:41:13 GMT
Ah!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2010 9:43:13 GMT
This is the tripcock mounted on the rear left of ex-Metropolitan Railway 0-4-4 No. 1 to allow it to run bunker first on LU routes. I'm not quite sure of the exact arrangements but it looks like the vacuum bag on the right. Does anyone know how the steam brake was operated by the tripcock on a loco running light? The vacuum brake could be used as the brake when running light if that answers it? |
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Post by v52gc on Aug 23, 2010 10:01:40 GMT
Complete guess, Ricky sidings...
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 23, 2010 10:12:49 GMT
Croxley Tip?
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Post by mcmaddog on Aug 23, 2010 12:53:06 GMT
North Harrow junction?
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Post by tubeprune on Aug 23, 2010 16:04:06 GMT
This is the tripcock mounted on the rear left of ex-Metropolitan Railway 0-4-4 No. 1 to allow it to run bunker first on LU routes. I'm not quite sure of the exact arrangements but it looks like the vacuum bag on the right. Does anyone know how the steam brake was operated by the tripcock on a loco running light? The vacuum brake could be used as the brake when running light if that answers it? Oh, you mean the loco has a vacuum cylinder on it as well as the steam brake? That's not common, is it? Where would it go? |
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Post by ruislip on Aug 23, 2010 16:35:13 GMT
Watford
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2010 16:46:13 GMT
The vacuum brake could be used as the brake when running light if that answers it? Oh, you mean the loco has a vacuum cylinder on it as well as the steam brake? That's not common, is it? Where would it go? The loco would create its own vacuum. It could operate with just a steam brake if need be. I don't really know much more than that - being an operator rather than an engineer! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2010 17:27:22 GMT
Amersham 34 road???
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Post by tubeprune on Aug 23, 2010 18:49:02 GMT
Oh, you mean the loco has a vacuum cylinder on it as well as the steam brake? That's not common, is it? Where would it go? The loco would create its own vacuum. It could operate with just a steam brake if need be. I don't really know much more than that - being an operator rather than an engineer! Ah! You mean there's a combined brake valve and if the vacuum pipe loses pressure the steam brake will apply? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2010 19:47:04 GMT
In the most excellent 'Red Panniers' book there is a description of the tripcock operation on the GW locos that were fitted when transferred to LT ownership. It states 'On the Panniers the trip cock was connected into the vacuum brake pipe and operated the brakes as though the locos were still fully vacuum fitted. The Driver, through the use of the GWR combination brake valve could, however, override the vacuum and continue using the steam brake'. I don't know if this helps but it was worth a mention.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2010 20:37:19 GMT
Pretty sure it's at the Buckinghamshire Railway Centre.
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Post by SE13 on Aug 24, 2010 5:19:34 GMT
I can't help with any of the questions, all my answer sheet says is: Tripcock on Met loco number 1 though I do have a location, and nobody has spotted this as yet.
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Post by tubeprune on Aug 24, 2010 10:06:08 GMT
In the most excellent 'Red Panniers' book there is a description of the tripcock operation on the GW locos that were fitted when transferred to LT ownership. It states 'On the Panniers the trip cock was connected into the vacuum brake pipe and operated the brakes as though the locos were still fully vacuum fitted. The Driver, through the use of the GWR combination brake valve could, however, override the vacuum and continue using the steam brake'. I don't know if this helps but it was worth a mention. Thanks Glyn, I kinda thought that's the sort of thing. |
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Post by harlesden on Aug 24, 2010 10:30:26 GMT
Chesham?
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 24, 2010 10:50:08 GMT
Neasden depot?
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Post by SE13 on Aug 24, 2010 11:07:34 GMT
None of the above. I can't decide if the location is required or not..... :\
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 24, 2010 11:11:45 GMT
Ruislip Depot?
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Post by Chris M on Aug 24, 2010 11:11:59 GMT
I'd say post the location if it isn't correctly identified by the time you put up tomorrow's question.
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Post by bassmike on Aug 24, 2010 11:29:26 GMT
lillie bridge?
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Post by Chris M on Aug 24, 2010 11:43:48 GMT
It's not in a depot
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2010 12:29:09 GMT
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Post by astock5000 on Aug 24, 2010 14:15:26 GMT
Was this photo taken at the Bluebell Railway? It was there a few years ago.
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Post by Chris M on Aug 24, 2010 15:14:31 GMT
It was indeed taken at the Bluebell Railway - the person who sent it to me some time ago (who expressed a desire to remain anonymous) didn't give any more information than that.
The EXIF information in the image gives a creation date of 28/07/2007, but I don't know how accurate that is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2010 15:42:32 GMT
It was indeed taken at the Bluebell Railway - the person who sent it to me some time ago (who expressed a desire to remain anonymous) didn't give any more information than that. The EXIF information in the image gives a creation date of 28/07/2007, but I don't know how accurate that is. A colleague tells me that the photo was taken in the Down Yard at Horsted Keynes where the carriages were stabled. The loco was there for the official launch of Bluebell's four Met Rly carriages after their restoration. Sadly the current Met General Manager couldn't make it, so a TOM was sent along instead. Here's some information: www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/bash/relaunch.html |
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Post by SE13 on Aug 24, 2010 19:40:55 GMT
Returns as a dead link Harry....
However, a couple of points, one amazingly OT.... Are you the same "Monkfish" from another place? If so I think we know each other!
Secondly, you may well know the person that took this picture.
Best keep anything else to PM me thinks....
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