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Post by littlebrute on Jun 4, 2011 0:53:35 GMT
Apart from the Victoria/Piccadilly crossover, what other lines can access each other? And when were said crossovers last used?
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Post by ruislip on Jun 4, 2011 4:00:54 GMT
Years ago there was a crossover connecting the Central and District lines just east of Ealing Broadway.
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Post by Ben on Jun 4, 2011 4:38:47 GMT
Theres a crossover between the Met and District between Aldgate East and Liverpool Street stations. Some call it the Hammersmith and City line... Take a look at Cartos excellent map as it'll show you what youre looking for carto.metro.free.fr/metro-london/ |
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Post by andypurk on Jun 4, 2011 4:56:04 GMT
Other connections include:
Northern to/from Piccadilly at King's Cross
Jubilee to/from Bakerloo at Baker Street
Jubilee to/from Metropolitan at Neasden (and formerly at Finchley Road)
Metropolitan and Piccadilly meet at Rayners Lane and share the track
Metropolitan (and Piccadilly) to/from Central at Ruislip siding via Ruislip depot
Piccadilly to/from District at both Barons Court and Acton Town.
Most of these are regularly used by engineering trains, but I have also covered them in passenger trains (most on railtours but the Barons Court/Acton Town connections see regular service train use and the Finchley Road/Neasden connections used to).
There are also connections to Network Rail at Amersham, Harrow-on-the-Hill, West Ruislip, Wimbledon, East Putney, Gunnersbury, Queens Park (plus Stonebridge Park for the Bakerloo depot) and Barking. Again some in regular service and some purely for engineering trains.
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And of course, all the Sub-Surface line connections, but you can work those out!!
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Post by Oracle on Jun 4, 2011 9:02:34 GMT
I am amazed to think that I have been over all of the Underground line crossovers including Ealing Broadway's! I think it was last used by an engineer's train but within the last two years?
I am impressed with the comprehensive listing posted..I can't think of any others at this juncture.
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Post by littlebrute on Jun 4, 2011 13:21:50 GMT
Ooh thanks, that is quite interesting. Could a composite service be run providing that signalling and trains were compatible on all lines? E.g. Stanmore - Elephant & Castle or Stratford - Amersham?
(I know that the latter would be almost impossible!)
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Post by metrailway on Jun 4, 2011 15:18:29 GMT
Ooh thanks, that is quite interesting. Could a composite service be run providing that signalling and trains were compatible on all lines? E.g. Stanmore - Elephant & Castle or Stratford - Amersham? (I know that the latter would be almost impossible!) Of course, between 1939 and 1979 Stanmore - Elephant & Castle trains were a regular occurence as the Stanmore branch was part of the Bakerloo. An all stations to Stratford from Amersham and vice versa is certainly possible, although you would have to use the 96 stock as it would be a tight fit in the Jubbly tunnels for the A Stock! |
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Post by trc666 on Jun 4, 2011 21:09:27 GMT
With regard to composite services, Hammersmith & City trains now and again get diverted to Aldgate during engineering works.
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Post by Tom on Jun 4, 2011 23:57:59 GMT
I am amazed to think that I have been over all of the Underground line crossovers including Ealing Broadway's! I think it was last used by an engineer's train but within the last two years? It was last used about a year ago, to cross an Engineer's Train over as part of the works that saw it lifted. |
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Post by littlebrute on Jun 5, 2011 0:29:37 GMT
Can Met trains actually be diverted to Stanmore? I assume that this hasn't happened since the Stanmore branch became Bakerloo so presumably any junction work has been removed?
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Post by Oracle on Jun 5, 2011 7:51:57 GMT
A D Stock train ran over the crossover from the Met at Finchley Road, and then ran to Stanmore on the Metroliner tour of 1979. I now think that there is no physical way that a Met could be diverted on to the Jubilee after the removal of crossovers..though can it be achieved at Neasden still? Prior to the removal of crossovers was there not a gauge issue for A Stock on the Stanmore branch when it was a Bakerloo and then Jubilee branch?
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Post by trc666 on Jun 5, 2011 8:56:45 GMT
A Jubilee could be routed to the fast from platform 4 and regain the local road just prior to Neasden, but I have no idea if Jubilee drivers still sign this route.
The only way a Met could run on the local now (at least in theory) is that a southbound could cross over to the local at Neasden, reverse at Finchley Road and then cross over again just after Neasden.
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Post by cso on Jun 5, 2011 10:18:12 GMT
I wouldn't have thought a Met could travel on the Jubilee Tracks between Neasden and Finchley these days with TBTC...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2011 10:21:45 GMT
I wouldn't have thought a Met could travel on the Jubilee Tracks between Neasden and Finchley these days with TBTC... Enhanced Engineer's Current Area or something silly like that - only under possession could something non-TBTC travel. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2011 17:43:25 GMT
I read a post on here that said when the 96's were on test, one went far up the Metropolitan Line and went at quite a speed. I don't know if anyone can confirm this or how fast it went?
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Post by br7mt on Jun 5, 2011 18:07:46 GMT
I read a post on here that said when the 96's were on test, one went far up the Metropolitan Line and went at quite a speed. I don't know if anyone can confirm this or how fast it went? Might have been high speed brake testing on Amersham Bank - I believe this section is favoured when 60mph initiation speed brake applications are required. That and Bow Bank on the District Line. I would be surprised though because I doubt the signalling north of Wembley Park is immunised against the 96TS traction package. Regards, Dan |
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Post by trc666 on Jun 8, 2011 19:20:44 GMT
Didn't there used to be a physical link at Northumberland Park Depot to BR when the depot was first built?
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Post by Oracle on Jun 8, 2011 19:29:46 GMT
I thought that there had been, in order for the stock to be delivered. It was then removed. I stand to be corrected though!
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Post by Tom on Jun 8, 2011 22:29:02 GMT
There was, no 120 points were the LT side of the crossover.
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Post by bassmike on Jun 9, 2011 0:46:15 GMT
re BR link at northumberland pk, the stock for the hainault/woodford shuttle was transferred this way down to temple mills and loughton branch junction.
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Post by Oracle on Jun 9, 2011 6:35:01 GMT
I was laying in bed this morning and recalled that I head read about the connection in a 167ish copy of the RAILWAY MAGAZINE. After the connection was removed the '67 Stock for the shuttle was sent via Ealing Broadway and Finsbury Park.
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