F stock refurbishment

[metman]

As I am soon* to start modelling a set of F stock I need to know when the trains were refurbished in 1951-53 were windscreen wipers added to all driving motor cars or just those at the outer ends?

I have a picture of a single equipped motor car on the ELL with wiper, but were all the non-ELL S/E cars given them?

Thanks

Metman



*by soon I mean probably in the next two years!!

[metman]

It would appear after carrying out some research that all driving motor cars even those in the middle portions were actually provided with wipers.

The photo below shows an example of an ex control trailer converted to a single equipped motor car in 1938-39.

www.ltmcollection.org/photos/photo/photo.html?_IXMAXHITS_=1&_IXSR_=xzd5FLT9NIy&IXsummary=results/results&IXsearch=Trains&_IXFIRST_=1124&IXenlarge=i00006gf

However...this car 4630 was part of the last batch scrapped in 1964 a Llanelli (oh if they could have save a few!) so it is likely that this was an ELL car, and wired to run as a short train.......

[metman]

Having said that the caption suggests that this photo was taken in 1952 when the District H stock was still on the ELL and the F stock had not begun to operate the ELL service? Does this now confirm that all DMs had wipers fitted?

Thoughts please....

[Deleted]

All my photos of the F Stock on the District show that no window wipers were fitted.

Out of all the pix I have of them on the Met., I have only one photo that shows an F Stock in service without window wipers. Moreover the train still has non-stopping boards on the four trailer cars. For reference it is working train 23 to Uxbridge passing Dollis Hill northbound.

I would therefore assume that it a transfer from the District to the Met. before rehab.

Edit:

Looking at my F Stock file, it seems that most, if not all, were transferred to the Met first and then rehab'd. Only when that was completed were there enough for the East London.

[metman]

Thank you, it was also my understanding that the trains moved to the Met prior to refurbishment.

Perhaps we can now assume that all double and single equipped motor cars were provided with a single wiper on refurbishment.

[Deleted]

Yep, on both counts.