|
Post by dazz285 on Feb 7, 2012 20:36:55 GMT
The new Platform 2
|
|
|
Post by su31 on Feb 9, 2012 9:29:59 GMT
|
|
|
Post by trt on Feb 9, 2012 10:33:18 GMT
Wow. (1) So King's Cross may really get a 9 3/4 (2) What happens if they add even more on? Platforms -1 & -2? :-)
|
|
|
Post by flippyff on Feb 26, 2012 21:37:26 GMT
<snip> It will be built out over the "country" end of the track currently serving platform 2 - thus that track will become a half length terminal bay facing London (and the WLL, more to the point!)and the loop, while remaining a through track, will acquire a half-length platform face. p2 //////////////////////////// -------------------------------- (to WLL) --------------------------------- (loop) -------------------------------- (up Windsor slow) p3 /////////////////////////// will become p2a ////////////////////////// p2b ///////////// [---------- (to WLL) --------------------------------- (former loop, to SLL) -------------------------------- (up Windsor slow) p3 /////////////////////////// Having gone through Clapham Junction this evening, it looks like the ELL layout is : #################P1######## / ########P2######[------------------ (to WLL) --------------------------------------- (former loop, to SLL) --------------------------------------- (up Windsor slow) ###################P3###########
Why is there a trailing set of points to the west end of the new P2? Also, on the platform itself, some of the new P1 signage overlaps into the P2 area. Simon
|
|
|
Post by andypurk on Feb 26, 2012 21:54:24 GMT
<snip> It will be built out over the "country" end of the track currently serving platform 2 - thus that track will become a half length terminal bay facing London (and the WLL, more to the point!)and the loop, while remaining a through track, will acquire a half-length platform face. p2 //////////////////////////// -------------------------------- (to WLL) --------------------------------- (loop) -------------------------------- (up Windsor slow) p3 /////////////////////////// will become p2a ////////////////////////// p2b ///////////// [---------- (to WLL) --------------------------------- (former loop, to SLL) -------------------------------- (up Windsor slow) p3 /////////////////////////// Having gone through Clapham Junction this evening, it looks like the ELL layout is : #################P1######## / ########P2######[------------------ (to WLL) --------------------------------------- (former loop, to SLL) --------------------------------------- (up Windsor slow) ###################P3###########
Why is there a trailing set of points to the west end of the new P2? Are they catch points for the siding(s) beyond the station which are being recommissioned as part of the works?
|
|
|
Post by flippyff on Feb 26, 2012 22:28:51 GMT
You mean so a train can occupy the siding with the points set to the run-off and another still be allowed into P2?
"Catch points" - I couldn't think of the terminology earlier, so thanks for that.
Simon
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2012 0:34:27 GMT
I think technically it's a trap point -- to prevent a right direction move passing the signal at danger and coming to grief. A catch point stops a wrong direction move -- as in a runaway down a bank hitting the train behind.
I did wonder if they were going to provide another siding coming back off that point but there doesn't appear to be room.
But if they ever reinstate Platform 0 it would make a good run round arrangement. From P2 into the siding to P0 while another train enters P2.
Andy
|
|
Chris M
Global Moderator
Forum Quizmaster
Always happy to receive quiz ideas and pictures by email or PM
Posts: 19,430
|
Post by Chris M on Mar 7, 2012 14:47:06 GMT
(2) What happens if they add even more on? Platforms -1 & -2? :-) Well if they use the Stratford model of platform numbering, they'll be 19 and 18 (or possibly 0A and 0B!)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 15:37:29 GMT
There are a couple of things that make me think the pair of points will lead to something. The first is that the continuation is not electrified, and there is an "Electric trains stop here" board on the platform end signal. Also the trunking alingside the track seems to stop where the diverging track would be. In this picture: www.flickr.com/photos/unravelled/6816831592/ there appears to be a ground signal ready to control a diverging move. It does look as if the points are far enough along to allow a move into a headshunt behind platform 2, and back onto sidings. It will be interesting to see how this area develops. Finally would a full set of points be used as trap points, or something simpler? Thanks Dave
|
|
|
Post by su31 on Mar 8, 2012 19:20:12 GMT
AFAIK the electrification has not yet been done, so hopefull all will be revealed soon...
|
|
|
Post by redbond on Mar 10, 2012 11:04:16 GMT
There has been murmurs of stabling some units at Clapham Junction, so this may be part of that perhaps?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2012 22:49:31 GMT
There's a proposal to double the width of the new extended platform (ie half of platform 2) so any stabling will have to wait until after this. There's also a proposal to add two more sets of stairs to the overbridge to hopefully deal with some of the overcrowding come Decmeber.
|
|
|
Post by Deep Level on Mar 31, 2012 4:17:33 GMT
Sorry if this is a stupid question but why didn't they just use platform 1 (now P0) and platform 2 (now P1) as an Island Platform rather than the new setup?
|
|
|
Post by norbitonflyer on Mar 31, 2012 5:16:48 GMT
Sorry if this is a stupid question but why didn't they just use platform 1 (now P0) and platform 2 (now P1) as an Island Platform rather than the new setup? This has been discussed upthread, but briefly, and AIUI, the arches supporting the trackbed of platform 0, which are cantilevered out from the main viaduct on which the station is built, have deteriorated to such an extent that they are no longer suitable for supporting a railway track. (For some reason the arches are known as the "Banana arches")
|
|
|
Post by Deep Level on Apr 7, 2012 21:05:38 GMT
So will all trains off the WLL join the Northbound Track on Latchmere Curve? or at the Crossover just east of Clapham Junction (which I believe they currently use)? or will it be a mixture of both depending on timetable?
|
|
|
Post by andypurk on Apr 7, 2012 22:04:01 GMT
I think technically it's a trap point -- to prevent a right direction move passing the signal at danger and coming to grief. A catch point stops a wrong direction move -- as in a runaway down a bank hitting the train behind. I did wonder if they were going to provide another siding coming back off that point but there doesn't appear to be room. But if they ever reinstate Platform 0 it would make a good run round arrangement. From P2 into the siding to P0 while another train enters P2. Andy Having had a look today, the points look like more than just trap points (being a proper full set of points with track continuing for a couple of meters on the diverging track). They do appear suitable (and aligned) for reconnecting to any future reinstated track on the other side of the island platform.
|
|
|
Post by uzairjubilee on May 16, 2012 19:11:12 GMT
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 16, 2012 19:13:34 GMT
Looking good - thanks for the photos.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 17, 2012 6:59:13 GMT
What are they going to do at the west end? Will there be reversing roads or stabling sidings where the old Kensington Sidings were?
|
|