kabsonline
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Post by kabsonline on Feb 21, 2012 16:17:54 GMT
Hello all. Me once again! Last Wednesday I stayed up to see the S Stock delivery. Now I watched it from my uncle's house as it back onto the Met just past Chalfont. When waiting I noticed that the last train to Chesham goes there in service and then returns out of service. I was just wondering what happens at Chesham to stop boarding this train and buying tickets for this train when it shows up as I'm sure there are not many staff about at that time of night. Also where does this train go after Chesham- Neasden or Rickmansworth? It was an S Stock on this night as well (useless but interesting fact) Thanks for your help!  kabsonline |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 16:26:14 GMT
Last Chesham departs Aldgate 00.02 Mon-Sat all stations, scheduled arrival Chesham 01.19.
01.24 empty Chesham to Rickmansworth south sidings.
Sunday last Chesham is 22.57 ex-Aldgate all stations, arrive Chesham 00.13.
00.21 (and a half!) ex-Chesham to Rickmansworth south sidings.
All this provided no timetable alterations for engineering work, etc.
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Post by causton on Feb 22, 2012 1:28:32 GMT
I was just wondering what happens at Chesham to stop boarding this train and buying tickets for this train when it shows up as I'm sure there are not many staff about at that time of night. kabsonline There's the driver - which is hopefully enough!  I would think late at night not many people would want to be headint into London - the trouble would be if someone was sleeping on that train and wanted to get off in London and ended up in Chesham and the driver couldn't wake them up! (how much harder is it to close up an S stock train? All other stocks have porter buttons and individual carriages, so someone wandering about the train could just move to a different car while you're not looking surely  plus do S stocks have porter buttons?) |
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Post by Tubeboy on Feb 22, 2012 8:37:49 GMT
Well according to the roster, there is always a supervisor there. Of course shortages occur. But in the main, the supervisor will be there to assist the driver. A whiteboard will be placed near the entrance informing travellers the last train has gone. The ticket machines could be closed by the supervisor too.
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Post by mcmaddog on Feb 22, 2012 9:57:15 GMT
Just close the gates when the previous train leaves?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2012 10:04:12 GMT
(how much harder is it to close up an S stock train? All other stocks have porter buttons and individual carriages, so someone wandering about the train could just move to a different car while you're not looking surely plus do S stocks have porter buttons?) From what I've observed, when the driver enters each carriage they hold down a door button on the closed side - this then closes the open doors for that carriage only. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2012 10:26:05 GMT
From what I've observed at Chesham after getting off the last train, the driver detrains as normal and the train leaves. Then the supervisor makes sure nobody is in the station and closes the doors at the front.
Though the other week I did see someone who had missed the last train from Chesham and the driver agreed to carry him to Chalfont.
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Post by rincew1nd on Feb 22, 2012 19:21:36 GMT
(how much harder is it to close up an S stock train? All other stocks have porter buttons and individual carriages, so someone wandering about the train could just move to a different car while you're not looking surely plus do S stocks have porter buttons?) As has been written elsewhere on this forum, the train is set to 'Tip-out' mode, then a member of staff walks the length of the train. Any doors that are open can be made to close by pressing the "Open" button and then remain closed and unable to be opened by passengers on the outside of the train. |
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Post by rsdworker on Feb 22, 2012 20:04:57 GMT
Well according to the roster, there is always a supervisor there. Of course shortages occur. But in the main, the supervisor will be there to assist the driver. A whiteboard will be placed near the entrance informing travellers the last train has gone. The ticket machines could be closed by the supervisor too. if no supervisor present when last train arrives or any unexpected happens - how station could closed - either by driver or driver could collect supervisor from other station to close it? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2012 20:51:31 GMT
(how much harder is it to close up an S stock train? All other stocks have porter buttons and individual carriages, so someone wandering about the train could just move to a different car while you're not looking surely plus do S stocks have porter buttons?) As has been written elsewhere on this forum, the train is set to 'Tip-out' mode, then a member of staff walks the length of the train. Any doors that are open can be made to close by pressing the "Open" button and then remain closed and unable to be opened by passengers on the outside of the train. So this means that two people (T/Op + station staff) can start at the two ends and meet in the middle, just like all other stock, and minimise the de-training time. A very efficient design feature. |
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Post by Tubeboy on Feb 22, 2012 22:11:05 GMT
I would imagine if there is no Chesham supervisor, the Chalfont supervisor will ride on the last train to Chesham, lock it up, then return on the empty stock to Chalfont.
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Post by rsdworker on Feb 22, 2012 22:26:39 GMT
i remmeber correctly - only driver can close doors at station if doors are slam lock or has same key as driver's doors so only few stations require speical keys to lock and unlock the doors like glass doors which station staff require to lock it - simllar to DLR which staff get off and lock the gates at entrances and back on while last train is passing through
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plus do S stocks have porter buttons?)
