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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 19:24:19 GMT
Don't see why the current lines can't be:
Richmond - Stratford: North London line Clapham Junction - Willesden Junction: West London line Highbury & Islington - New Cross/West Croydon: East London line Highbury & Islington - Clapham Junction: South London line
And now for someone to think of names for the others, I agree the Gospel Oak - Barking should be named the Goblin!
However I would disagree with a numbering system such as 'LO1' etc, far too boring and considering the tube has got names for all lines it wouldn't be very fitting.
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Post by longhedge on Sept 1, 2014 7:26:18 GMT
I have a preference for names, and I know staff use `Goblin` as a nickname, However, with regard to re-using the `old` North London Line etc, it does get confusing for trains say, going direct Clapham Junction to Stratford i.e. West London Line, North London Line.
As I assume LO will always be denoted Orange on maps, and all stations are staffed, with destination boards on all platforms, is there a problem here that needs fixing? I am not so sure. Unless you bring back a series of `Headcodes~ as in days of yore, surely there are too many different routes from 2015 for any succinct system to be possible. And even with headcodes, one had to know the system.
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Post by melikepie on Sept 1, 2014 8:25:47 GMT
On WA there are some inner London unstaffed stations. See my separate thread
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Post by Rich32 on Sept 1, 2014 11:50:57 GMT
On WA there are some inner London unstaffed stations. See my separate thread And the relevance to this thread is...?
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Post by melikepie on Sept 1, 2014 12:24:58 GMT
It was a sort of reply to Longhedge's post above saying that he assumed all LO stations are staffed.
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Post by Chris M on Sept 1, 2014 12:40:06 GMT
All LO stations are staffed, and that will also be true when they take over the Greater Anglia stations - any that are presently unstaffed will become staffed from (approximately?) the time of handover.
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Post by ashlar on Sept 8, 2014 17:41:51 GMT
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Post by ashlar on Sept 8, 2014 17:43:35 GMT
Pedants among you will bristle at the tendency for incorrectly indicating which line flies above / tunnels under which other line when they cross!
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Post by rincew1nd on Sept 8, 2014 18:13:30 GMT
As posted in the other thread Barking extension contains a sneak preview of the new London Overground map. They've done a gorgeous job! Clicky for mapIndeed, the lines from Liverpool look very similar to the Northern Line's branches. At first I was trying to figure out why the Central Line was the only tube line to be included, then I realised... Doh!
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Post by ashlar on Sept 8, 2014 18:17:24 GMT
Something else to chew on. This is incompatible with being superimposed on the tube map unless they made the Victoria line extremely wiggly!
Could we be moving to a 2 map system?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 18:26:04 GMT
Well, I don't think the current LO network map fits very comfortably onto the tube map either, but it may be becoming increasingly likely, otherwise the regular tube map will be almost as busy and cluttered and difficult to follow and un-user friendly and impossible to fit into one's pocket as the otherwise useful 'rail and tube services' map
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Post by Chris M on Sept 8, 2014 18:57:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 19:15:03 GMT
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Post by ashlar on Sept 8, 2014 19:36:15 GMT
Yes. Shows what skill and care goes into making TfL's beautiful maps. This and the maps for almost every other network on the planet.
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Post by ashlar on Sept 8, 2014 19:38:40 GMT
Well, I don't think the current LO network map fits very comfortably onto the tube map either, but it may be becoming increasingly likely, otherwise the regular tube map will be almost as busy and cluttered and difficult to follow and un-user friendly and impossible to fit into one's pocket as the otherwise useful 'rail and tube services' map You are right. This is the one they've modified: Clicky click for mapnew one looks a lot better
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Post by theblackferret on Sept 8, 2014 20:25:39 GMT
Beck's map was based on electrical circuitry. So is that unofficial redesign, from what I can see.
That's continuity; the problem today, compared to 1932, is we now not only have extended Central, Piccadilly & Northern Lines, but also completely new Jubilee, Victoria & DLR lines, London Overground revived and reconnected, Thameslink connections, Network Rail with 3 million different operating companies, to be followed shortly by Crossrail.
In other words, the circuit box is a darn site fuller all of a sudden-information overload?
Could the answer be to make the 4-page pocket tube map 8 pages, so 2 pages are dedicated solely to showing LUL lines & stations, with appropriate colours or symbols at interchange with LO, NR, etc, the obverse of those 2 pages containing all the other lines, including Crossrail, in detail ie all stations, with the appropriate LU line colour on the interchange station?
I think they must separate LUL on the map & that might be the way to do it.
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Post by rapidtransitman on Sept 8, 2014 20:29:55 GMT
theblackferretWhat about just making the Tube Map bigger, and keep all the LU and LO (plus Thameslink & Crossrail 1) on it. Larger map being more readable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 20:31:01 GMT
theblackferretWhat about just making the Tube Map bigger, and keep all the LU and LO (plus Thameslink & Crossrail 1) on it. Larger map being more readable. Put the Tramlink on there too.
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Post by theblackferret on Sept 8, 2014 20:46:48 GMT
theblackferretWhat about just making the Tube Map bigger, and keep all the LU and LO (plus Thameslink & Crossrail 1) on it. Larger map being more readable. I'm not against that as another modus operandi. So people get the choice.
I'd just guess that LUL has a higher usage than the rest and therefore should be a separate port of call, as it were, because the majority of users will on the Tube, not on the peripheries.
When rockorange's lines get built, of course, you will need a very big foldout map, for Tubes and the others!!!
Mainly because people will be flocking to them in unprecedented numbers, with London's transport network finally having a network and connectivity relevant to the 21st Century.
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Post by ashlar on Sept 8, 2014 20:49:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 20:52:37 GMT
theblackferretWhat about just making the Tube Map bigger, and keep all the LU and LO (plus Thameslink & Crossrail 1) on it. Larger map being more readable. I'm not against that as another modus operandi. So people get the choice.
I'd just guess that LUL has a higher usage than the rest and therefore should be a separate port of call, as it were, because the majority of users will on the Tube, not on the peripheries.
When rockorange's lines get built, of course, you will need a very big foldout map, for Tubes and the others!!!
Mainly because people will be flocking to them in unprecedented numbers, with London's transport network finally having a network and connectivity relevant to the 21st Century.*blushes*
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 20:53:27 GMT
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Post by superteacher on Sept 8, 2014 21:08:29 GMT
Very good, but what about Romford - Upminster? Isn't that going over to LO?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 21:10:56 GMT
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Post by superteacher on Sept 8, 2014 21:19:09 GMT
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Post by crusty54 on Sept 9, 2014 6:39:05 GMT
The Tube map size was researched in the 1980s and the current size won.
Other maps are available.
There is a limit to how much you can fit in the space and keep it readable.
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