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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2006 14:32:22 GMT
Just out of curiosity, will the 8 car S stocks have the Metropolitan Railway crest applied to the upper left corner of the onside cab door?
When I first saw this on the A stocks I found this to be a rather low-key and fitting way to illuminate the heritage of the Met, and seeing as how the 8-car S stocks won't be running anywhere else once they appear, doing so again would be a nice touch of individuality.
The same could be said for the 7-car S stock - an application of the District Railway crest to that fleet would be a similar thing to do. Besides, it would be quite the wind up for stock with the DR crest to be running around on the Met! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2006 14:34:14 GMT
I agree that this would be a nice idea - and as for inter - running of stock between lines the crests may not be a problem. If stock was swapped around all the time the line diagrams and signage would have to be altered, so as said, the line crest wouldn't be much of an issue.
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Post by c5 on Dec 14, 2006 17:12:45 GMT
And don't forget the H&C - The Hammersmith and Great Western Joint Railway crest.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2006 18:16:35 GMT
This has reminded me of something......can you still get the maroon Met crest ties? I remember a few T/Ops (of quite a few lines, not just the Met) wearing them years ago but don't see them now.
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Post by c5 on Dec 14, 2006 18:19:44 GMT
I have and wear mine most days at the moment. You get funny looks from some station staff wondering what tie you are wearing. There are a few staff who are still after one. I've also got an old tie with the Line Name on  As far as I know they don't make them anymore, but some managers have looked into getting "line-themed" ties for non frontline staff. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2006 18:27:14 GMT
I have a few pre 1999 ties, with the line names on. I have a District, Northern and two Picc ones. I would absolutely love to wear them to work but I can't see my supervisors being too keen. I personally would like 'line theme' to come back, as the namebadges had the line on the top too - it's no fun nowadays ;D
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Post by prjb on Dec 15, 2006 21:41:48 GMT
Just out of curiosity, will the 8 car S stocks have the Metropolitan Railway crest applied to the upper left corner of the onside cab door? There are no plans at present to do this, although the lines have made some early suggestions and are keen to add their own stamp. Corporate identity takes priority over line identity (rightly or wrongly, I'm in two minds!) these days. When I first saw this on the A stocks I found this to be a rather low-key and fitting way to illuminate the heritage of the Met, and seeing as how the 8-car S stocks won't be running anywhere else once they appear, doing so again would be a nice touch of individuality. The heritage of the Met? Do you mean the actual Met which is now the C&H (it didn't go north until much later) or the fake Met which we refer to as the Met main for some unknown reason? ;D The same could be said for the 7-car S stock - an application of the District Railway crest to that fleet would be a similar thing to do. Besides, it would be quite the wind up for stock with the DR crest to be running around on the Met! ;D ;D ;D This particular idea would be very difficult for the 7's, what with them being universal accross the Circle, H&C, and District. |
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Post by prjb on Dec 15, 2006 21:43:19 GMT
I agree that this would be a nice idea - and as for inter - running of stock between lines the crests may not be a problem. If stock was swapped around all the time the line diagrams and signage would have to be altered, so as said, the line crest wouldn't be much of an issue. This would be a problem! 7 car 'S' Stock are generic to the non Met lines and will not require any kind of change to the exterior/interior in order for them to be reformed into different services. |
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Post by prjb on Dec 15, 2006 21:45:06 GMT
And don't forget the H&C - The Hammersmith and Great Western Joint Railway crest. Quite right! ;D Farringdon to Bishops road, I believe. The branch line north from baker street occured as a mere after thought!  Incoming!! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2006 22:03:47 GMT
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I am of the opinion that the "ickle Jack Wood branch" is by far the more deserving of the title "Met Main", and seeing as how the current crests are quite discreet and don't shout out to the average punter, I doubt that applying the Met crest to the 8-car S stocks is likely to dilute the corporate identity.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2006 22:22:24 GMT
This would be a problem! 7 car 'S' Stock are generic to the non Met lines and will not require any kind of change to the exterior/interior in order for them to be reformed into different services. I see.......so the setup would be a bit different than it is now. Those line diagrams are gonna be interesting! |
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Post by prjb on Dec 15, 2006 22:40:08 GMT
This would be a problem! 7 car 'S' Stock are generic to the non Met lines and will not require any kind of change to the exterior/interior in order for them to be reformed into different services. I see.......so the setup would be a bit different than it is now. Those line diagrams are gonna be interesting! Generic stock in itself is a big change. The diagrams are not too bad, TfL (LU/LT/LPTB......) have a pretty good pedigree for this sort of thing. Some of the other forum members have seen the new diagrams and they went down reasonably well. |
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Post by prjb on Dec 15, 2006 22:41:16 GMT
*KABOOM* I am of the opinion that the "ickle Jack Wood branch" is by far the more deserving of the title "Met Main", and seeing as how the current crests are quite discreet and don't shout out to the average punter, I doubt that applying the Met crest to the 8-car S stocks is likely to dilute the corporate identity. I am in two minds myself, I can see the appeal from a line point of view. |
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Post by Ben on Dec 17, 2006 15:04:24 GMT
Granted corporate identity takes priority over line identity, but at the same time it would be negligant of LUL's history and heritage to allow line identity to be smotherd out of existance. The tube is edging towards a totally uniform system, at least on the SSL, and pretty soon the only thing unique to the met will be the line diagrams. A shame considering its aspirations!
If anything I would say that crests should appear more, but in the future they'll be less places where they will be appropriate. This isn't necessarily a totally good thing.
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