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Post by phoenixcronin on Jun 16, 2017 15:57:04 GMT
Also the newer voice is more annoying than what came before. There are a few drivers who dislike the system so much now that they will turn it off altogether and make their own announcements when they deem appropriate, or in a couple of cases the train will be treated to complete silence. That will get them into trouble post 2020...
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Post by phoenixcronin on Jun 4, 2017 14:43:07 GMT
hence the odd window on the MS cars! What is an 'MS' car? Motor Shoegear. Basically the wheelchair cars
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Post by phoenixcronin on Jun 4, 2017 13:15:51 GMT
It's 4 seats one side and 3 seats on the other. hence the odd window on the MS cars!
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Post by phoenixcronin on Jun 2, 2017 15:55:04 GMT
I think it looks better, although I'm surprised they've painted the doors white as well. Grey doors would contrast nicely with the white saloon IMHO
Also, on a side note they remind me of the old white doors on the C stock
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Post by phoenixcronin on May 31, 2017 20:48:16 GMT
The most obvious change to me is the plate on the bottom of the doors (grey on the S8s vs aluminium on the S7s, and with different rivets) and the reduction in the number of emergency alarms on later S7s.
There are no doubt more changes which aren't immediately visible.
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Post by phoenixcronin on May 30, 2017 21:36:06 GMT
What's happened to the unit number?
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Post by phoenixcronin on May 29, 2017 11:55:05 GMT
Just saw a guy from Bombardier on the BBC's "The Fifteen Billion Pound Railway" refer to these trains as "the largest length trains you'll probably see on London Underground for a long while..." edit: he also later refers to them as a "tube"
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Post by phoenixcronin on May 28, 2017 20:08:48 GMT
I did raise this issue with the operations director of the SSR, specifically if they could get rectified when they were sent back for ATO, and he promised me he would look in to it. There are some other units as well, including 21011/12, which looks particularly silly:
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Post by phoenixcronin on May 21, 2017 18:13:34 GMT
The logo is tautologous - the "anni" part of anniversary means "year" anyway. Given the number of people who say such things as "PIN number" or "LCD display" I don't think people will notice
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Post by phoenixcronin on May 1, 2017 16:35:10 GMT
Interesting... I was on the other refurbed unit (not 96005+96060) and the paint job seemed to be of a much higher standard! No overspray/sloppiness etc. Seems a bit hit and miss
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Post by phoenixcronin on May 1, 2017 16:29:02 GMT
I remember 1959 stock with the M (cab front) door wedged open with a piece of wood! I've seen 73 stock with the nearside cab door wedged slightly open with a pen to create a breeze!
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 30, 2017 18:38:58 GMT
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 29, 2017 12:41:57 GMT
"When shown the picture by the Standard, commuters at nearby Ealing Broadway station expressed fears over potential safety risks.
Student James Price, 20, said: “You don’t expect that type of thing to be possible, especially because there are so many people on a train. It seems like a massive hazard.”"
I wasn't aware that passengers regularly travelled in the cab...
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 28, 2017 19:36:05 GMT
Should the driver still apply the brake even at, for example, the 6 car marker on a 6 car train? Surely by the time the train stops the last car will be beyond the end of the platform? In that scenario the brake has already been automatically applied due to the PEA being operated. The correct procedure is for the train to be allowed to come to a stand and the PEA investigated immediately. It is nothing to do with the train's proximity to the platform when it stops, but the possibility that it has been operated due to a PTI (platform/train interface) incident. Ah, I see
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 28, 2017 19:17:05 GMT
Should the driver still apply the brake even at, for example, the 6 car marker on a 6 car train? Surely by the time the train stops the last car will be beyond the end of the platform?
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 28, 2017 16:41:22 GMT
The second is 96121/122. These are a pair of the "newer" units, delivered around the time of the seventh car upgrade at the end of 2005 from memory. I think it's purely coincidental they are still in the same pairing as when delivered, as I'm sure they must have been separated at some stage of their life. For some reason the fleet staff keep these four trains seperate from the rest of the fleet. This is no longer the case however, as the original units have been coupled to the 2005 build units in recent times.
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 26, 2017 19:17:58 GMT
The quality of the upgrade does not appear to be to the same level (not to say it's bad) as that on the Northern line stock. It looks to be a lick of paint, literally. Some of the grey paint was visible on the black window seals. I thought the interior covers were replaced rather than painted over, I understood that's what happened on the Northern line but maybe not? I was on one of the upgraded Jubilee cars today and noticed some of the white paint coming off to reveal the old greenish colour. Not sure how long it will last! That being said the cars look much more bright and fresh, also had a nice new smell. I've noticed the sloppiness as well. On the Northern 95s the inside of the doors were given a grey film, rather than being painted, for example.
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 21, 2017 19:07:56 GMT
Old and New
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 20, 2017 11:19:45 GMT
I'm confused at that last post. Please can you explain? I took it to mean he was lamenting over the previous design of the 345s, which sadly did not make it to production.
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 17, 2017 19:20:04 GMT
It seems like the position of the wheelchair space(s) is not very consistent across LUL. S7/S8 have it in the two middle cars, so does 09, but 95 and 96 have it in the 2nd car from each end.
Seems a bit random!
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 16, 2017 21:26:26 GMT
Actually, if every C car in the B-C units was modified then you would end up with every train having two wheelchair cars in the middle of the train, since almost every train is A-B-B-C-C-B-B-A. This would work out quite nicely, and it would not affect flexibility. Don't forget the de-icing units, they are formed B-D. Would you just make the D cars accessible too to keep things simple? I think you could just treat B-C and B-D units the same in this regard
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 16, 2017 20:59:03 GMT
But on the Central the four units making up each train are interchangeable, apart from the obvious requirement that the two end units must have a cab, and you would lose operating flexibility if only some units had wheelchair spaces. You might fit a wheelchair space only in the cabbed units, as then each train would have two (and a few would have three) Actually, if every C car in the B-C units was modified then you would end up with every train having two wheelchair cars in the middle of the train, since almost every train is A-B-B-C-C-B-B-A. This would work out quite nicely, and it would not affect flexibility. However, the few trains with a middle cab would end up only having one wheelchair car, unless some of the middle cabs were permanently relegated to the middle and also fitted with a wheelchair space.
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 16, 2017 20:48:25 GMT
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 15, 2017 20:39:26 GMT
Looks to me as tho brighter bulbs have been fitted They've probably just cleaned out the dust/condensation in the diffusers
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 12, 2017 8:58:05 GMT
Any updates on the extra trains that need to be ordered?
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 5, 2017 10:55:15 GMT
Anyone know why they were given plain step plates instead of the ALSTOM ones used on the 95s?
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 2, 2017 4:01:49 GMT
If we're really lucky we'll start seeing these maps on trains by around 2023 😉
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Post by phoenixcronin on Mar 28, 2017 19:05:12 GMT
Also although both seem to have the newish LED dot matrix destination displays in the picture, COCKFOSTERS is all in upper case but Uxbridge isn't. Is that normal? And what's the symbol after COCKFOSTERS? That's because this picture is about a year old, when there were some mixed trains with units with old and new displays. If the front unit was old and the rear was new the rear would display DESTINATION \U
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Post by phoenixcronin on Mar 28, 2017 18:24:38 GMT
Does anyone know why 115 has a different front livery compared to all the others? The area above the destination is red, rather than grey, and the grey area around the windscreen does not extend as far up as the others. Just curious! See below: 115 is on the left
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Post by phoenixcronin on Mar 20, 2017 17:46:49 GMT
I must say the wrap was done very nicely! It looked very clean and crisp, almost like it was painted
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