Filming on the District

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Hi there,

I was heading to work this morning and a Refurb D ran into Putney Bridge, i was surprised because in the front cab was a complete set-up for filming, camera through the 'M' Door, Driver accompanied by three big burly men armed with Camera's, sound booms etc.

Anyone know what this is for? The train Set No and info is below:
Train No: 043
Front DM: 7528
Arrived at Wimbledon at around 10:05am

Cheers,
Matloughe

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Hmm, DD DEV Take 2, perhaps???

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Wouldn't all that gubbins distract the driver?

To DD: Was it like that for you when you did the V125 DEV?

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matloughe said:

Driver accompanied by three big burly men armed with Camera's, sound booms etc.

Tut, tut. There should be a maximum of two other people in the cab.

A rule that is always strictly adhered to!

[Dstock7080]

If it's the same crowd, they are a Polish television crew following a certain Acton Town I/O in his duties and work practices.

[prjb]

adw said:

matloughe said:

Driver accompanied by three big burly men armed with Camera's, sound booms etc.

Tut, tut. There should be a maximum of two other people in the cab.

A rule that is always strictly adhered to!

Are you sure? A genuine question BTW, as TC121 does not stipulate.

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To be honest, I'm not sure I've ever seen the 2 people rule written down anywhere, but everyone seems to know of its existence, even though very few people take any notice!

[Colin]

The District line standards manager (he's the one incharge of training on the District line) stated to me (and my fellow trainees at the time) that drivers should not allow more than two other people in the cab whilst the train is in motion.

[meteorological]

Doesn't the District LSM count as 2 himself

[prjb]

meteorological said:

Doesn't the District LSM count as 2 himself

;D

[prjb]

colin said:

The District line standards manager (he's the one incharge of training on the District line) stated to me (and my fellow trainees at the time) that drivers should not allow more than two other people in the cab whilst the train is in motion.

Yes, this rule is qouted a lot. I myself adhered to it when I was out operational. Since transferring though and having to apply for a cab permit I have looked into this a bit more. I cannot find any rule that states a maximum number. TC121 is the reference working manual procedure that covers cab access and it makes no mention of numbers. I freely admit that i may have missed it somehwhere and could be wrong, it's just i have looked and can't find mention of it. Maybe a call to Operational Standards on Monday might get to the bottom of it.
My question above was genuine, as I was hoping that someone had found the rule printed somewhere!

[trainopd78]

Although not written, a meeting was held with some of the LSM's and other managers a couple of years ago. The number 2 plus the driver was given as it was felt that any more than 3 in the cab would be too disruptive to the driver and would give a very bad impression to our customers. I've since deleted that e-mail giving the details, when the computer systems saved e-mail facility got moved, but the rule seems to have stuck.

[prjb]

That seems to be sensible to me. It should be incorporated into the reference manual though or it forever remains an area for debate and mis-interpretation.

[Tom]

There is something about number of people allowed in the cab if taking a train to a worksite in a tunnel and then using the train as protection. Can't remember the numbers allowed though.

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if memory serves me right its 2 plus the driver max the others have to sit in the passenger area then use the J door to enter the cab when at the worksite AC rule 10* something

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There was a film unit on the platform at Upney at about 3pm this afternoon on the Upminster bound platform. I was on an unreferb, and the driver asked folk getting off to be careful because ther was a fil munit there.

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Was walking past Temple just before Christmas, swarms of film crews everywhere. Not sure what was going on.

[prjb]

aetearlscourt said:

if memory serves me right its 2 plus the driver max the others have to sit in the passenger area then use the J door to enter the cab when at the worksite AC rule 10* something

AC, protection rules? I'll check it out on Monday. Thanks aetearlscourt.

[stanmorek]

tubeoperator92 said:

Was walking past Temple just before Christmas, swarms of film crews everywhere. Not sure what was going on.

Last June an episode of the TV series Spooks was being filmed in a building opposite the gardens next to Temple station. The BBC had all their vans parked up in Surrey Street. Well that's what Westminster council told us.

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only loosely linked to topic.... but when I was on the Vic line HMRI went loopy upon discovering an Instructor with two trainees.... to that point a regular occurance....

The DMT had to hurridly get some trainees off trains with 3 trainees to an instructor before they were seen !!

Thereafter no further rostering of more than one trainee to an I/op occurred, unless an unexpected problem or sick I/op occurred.