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Post by metman on May 16, 2009 0:54:58 GMT
I had the pleasure of travelling on the Bakerloo tonight and ending up in the UNDM. I always stand against the R door and can pop my head out into the 'fresh' air. I noticed that the UNDM has a single headlight on the right hand side. How long has this been there? Was it retro-fitted or provided from new? When was the whistle added too? Cheers  |
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Post by Colin on May 16, 2009 3:03:46 GMT
I don't know 72ts, but an UNDM can be driven from the outer end of the unit when it's unit is uncoupled; so a whistle and white light make perfect sense - as would a red light and window wiper.
EDIT: it should also be noted that putting your head between cars is dangerous - the stickers attached to the doors are there for a reason!!
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Post by astock5000 on May 16, 2009 9:16:06 GMT
I don't know 72ts, but an UNDM can be driven from the outer end of the unit when it's unit is uncoupled; so a whistle and white light make perfect sense - as would a red light and window wiper. 72TS UNDMs don't have wipers, as 67/72TS don't have windows in the ends of the cars. |
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Post by metman on May 16, 2009 9:56:25 GMT
I was lead to believe the 72 UNDM had a small white and red tail light at solebar level like the 49 and 73 stocks.
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Post by 21146 on May 16, 2009 16:41:25 GMT
I don't know 72ts, but an UNDM can be driven from the outer end of the unit when it's unit is uncoupled; so a whistle and white light make perfect sense - as would a red light and window wiper. EDIT: it should also be noted that putting your head between cars is dangerous - the stickers attached to the doors are there for a reason!! Surely the sticker refers to using the door whilst the train is moving, not the window? |
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Post by Colin on May 16, 2009 17:30:44 GMT
Isn't that being a bit pedantic? Anyway: 72TS UNDMs don't have wipers, as 67/72TS don't have windows in the ends of the cars. Well I did say I didn't know 72ts that well  ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Ben on May 16, 2009 18:35:49 GMT
The tube did do a feature a long while back on why that area is dangerous, and sticking your head out of the window was such a dangerous activity. It rather unfairly showed a watermelon being crushed between the car ends of a C stock. Personally if the window is open on the next car I wouldn't have thought that it would present a danger to stick your head out a few inches because they'ld be nothing to come into contact with it.
However the downside is sneezing soot...
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Post by metman on May 16, 2009 23:16:10 GMT
Whoa! I didn't want to start a debate on whether, sticking one's head out of a com door is danagerous or not. Colin is quite right to highlight the risks, it is part of his duty of care!
What I want to know, is about the end treatments of the UNDM. I didn't know there was a single headlight on the off side of the cars, and wanted to know if its was put there from the start.
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Post by astock5000 on May 26, 2009 18:18:27 GMT
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Post by metman on May 26, 2009 18:52:01 GMT
Maybe something to do with the positioning of the wiring for the guard's panel?
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Post by Tom on May 26, 2009 23:36:12 GMT
Pass, but I do like the fact your first photo has captured the DM with a 'Bakerloo Brown' front!
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