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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2005 22:34:42 GMT
Has a calling-on shunt signal ever been cleared in error at Parsons Green since the cessation of in-service uncoupling?
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Post by Tom on Feb 25, 2005 0:03:00 GMT
The ability to push the signal off from Earls Court has been decommissioned, though it can still be cleared from the IMR.
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Post by Admin Team on Feb 25, 2005 9:00:38 GMT
The ability to push the signal off from Earls Court has been decommissioned, though it can still be cleared from the IMR. There is too a panel or frame of some sort in a box in the old traincrew accomodation at PG that is still connected to the system. I was told that it hasn't been used for years and there's now no-one left with LU who knows how to work it, and that it should never be touched! Mind, they've probably lost the key for it by now....... I wonder if the calling on signalling could still be operated from there? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2005 9:13:47 GMT
I wonder if there are any pictures of this panel - it sounds like the local control panels that can be found in other IMRs around the system.
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Post by Tom on Feb 25, 2005 13:32:30 GMT
I know of the panel you're thinking of - it was used to shunt trains around without disturbing the regulator at Earls Court and the programme machine has shunt paths built in to allow this, though I suspect it didn't allow the calling on signal to clear.
The only IMR with a local control panel is Queen's Park.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2005 14:13:39 GMT
I know of the panel you're thinking of - it was used to shunt trains around without disturbing the regulator at Earls Court and the programme machine has shunt paths built in to allow this, though I suspect it didn't allow the calling on signal to clear. The only IMR with a local control panel is Queen's Park. What do these panels look like? Are they similar to the snap-pointer panels used at Ricky and Upminster to shift the points in the depots, or are they more like the pushbutton panels seen at Barking? |
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Post by Admin Team on Feb 25, 2005 20:40:15 GMT
What do these panels look like? Are they similar to the snap-pointer panels used at Ricky and Upminster to shift the points in the depots, or are they more like the pushbutton panels seen at Barking? I must admit it's svereal years since I've actually seen it, but IIRC it's in a smallish cupboard. I *think* I feel a trip to PG with camera coming on..... |
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Post by Tom on Feb 28, 2005 1:01:29 GMT
What do these panels look like? Are they similar to the snap-pointer panels used at Ricky and Upminster to shift the points in the depots, or are they more like the pushbutton panels seen at Barking? They were a temporary measure used in a lot of places in the interim between resignalling and centralised control. The pictures of Rayners Lane cabin show typical examples, where the site was never converted to computer operation. |
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Post by trainopd78 on Mar 10, 2005 22:51:11 GMT
Here's a picture of the panel at Parsons Green. Sorry about the quality but I was passing through earlier and forgot my proper camera so my mobile had to suffice for now. Not only that, my C stock was sitting in the platform at PG.  wayneprice5870.fotopic.net/p12586744.htmlAs you can See - hopefully - each road has a row of dials. Hopefully someone can fully confirm the rest, but I've been led to believe that these were set by a string of train numbers being dialled into it. Once set and a train was ready to depart from a siding, the driver pushed the button on his plunger in the siding (we know them by another name too ;D) and the signal would eventually clear. As far as I know an entire morning could be set and the system would run as programmed, drivers plunging themselves out at the correct time. I'd like to turn the dials to see hoe high the numbers go, as i've been led to believe that it has been disconnected, but no one touches it just in case. I've left the chairs in the shot to give you all an idea of it's size. I'll take my decent camers along soon and take a proper shot with close ups of the dials. Edit: spoke to one of the DMT's today who actually operated the panel. The panel was set the previous night and the whole days working into and out oof the siding could be set up. By each set of dials was a light, once the move was completed the light would extinguish allowing the crew manager to see which moves had been completed so far that day. As long as everyone did what they were meant to do (ie the crew manager set it up correctly and the drivers plunged right time) then the rest happened automatically. The panel was taken out of use in 1992 when company plan came in. This was a major restructuring of all the grades which led to the current grades we use today. |
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Post by Admin Team on Mar 13, 2005 21:01:15 GMT
Intersting !!
I have to admit the frame's much bigger than I remembered it, but there's the evidence.
Your mention of the DMT to whom you spoke? Do I assume this was 'some time ago' - i.e. pre company plan (which narrows down the potential candidates!) as I'd be a little troubled if it were still interferred with today!
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Post by DWS on Mar 13, 2005 22:08:48 GMT
The Shunting Panal at Parsons Green was not used when I worked at Earl's Court Control room in the 1980's.
All moves to or from the Sidings were push button moves only.
May be District Dave could have a word with the retired former Signalman "Malcom" as he used to work at Earl's Court in the good old days ;D
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Post by Admin Team on Mar 13, 2005 22:12:54 GMT
May be District Dave could have a word with the retired former Signalman "Malcom" as he used to work at Earl's Court in the good old days ;D Aha!! VERY good idea... I'll mail him tomorrow. |
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Post by trainopd78 on Mar 14, 2005 12:51:47 GMT
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Post by Hurricane on Mar 19, 2005 12:00:16 GMT
 When I was a motorman we used to call the TRTS plungers at PG and elsewhere after a bulbous part of the female anatomy consisting of three letters starting and ending with a "T" When you were ready to start you pressed the T*T What do they call them now then.
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Post by Tom on Mar 19, 2005 14:01:30 GMT
I always knew plungers as 'Donkey's co*ks', though the phrase isn't quite appropriate with the smaller plungers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2005 14:11:37 GMT
I always knew plungers as 'Donkey's co*ks', though the phrase isn't quite appropriate with the smaller plungers. Those are the ones on poles with flexable ends which the driver can grab from the cab, located in Triangle sidings, PG sidings and Neasden depot. The little TRTS buttons at Wimbledon and Richmond are generally just known as plungers. |
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Post by trainopd78 on Mar 19, 2005 18:02:55 GMT
Those are the ones on poles with flexable ends which the driver can grab from the cab, located in Triangle sidings, PG sidings and Neasden depot. The little TRTS buttons at Wimbledon and Richmond are generally just known as plungers. Or as Alan will tell you, a certain I/O calls the network rail ones "TaRTS" plungers.  |
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