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Post by mrfs42 on Aug 7, 2010 22:04:39 GMT
Getting back to the OT, isn't the Bakerloo line the only one to start out as a solitary line, gain a branch, then later on lose the branch? The CSLR might also qualify for that, although under a different set of circumstances. |
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Post by superteacher on Aug 7, 2010 22:21:51 GMT
Central line - Ruilsip Gardens I thought those trains only tipped out at RUG then go straight to Ruislip depot to no longer be in pax service. Yes, true, but the OP mentioned reversing or termination points. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2010 5:10:10 GMT
Can it be argued that the District has a crossover on NR lines south of the boundary at Wimbledon Park? Also there's a ground frame at East Putney, and Gunnersbury has already been mentioned. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2010 21:45:50 GMT
Isn't the most obviously unique feature of the line its name?
"Baker Street and Waterloo"
Surely Wimbleware is just a private joke?
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Post by Chris M on Aug 8, 2010 22:17:01 GMT
In terms of official names then probably so, but don't forget the ''Goblin'' is now within TfL's purview.
Also, ''Chelney'' (if ever built) is about equally likely to be called that as ''Crossrail 2'', but this will be named for teh areas of London served, not stations.
Also I seem to remember one of the proposed names for what became the Victoria was the ''Viking Line'' (Victoria + Kings Cross)
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Post by superteacher on Aug 8, 2010 22:39:23 GMT
In terms of official names then probably so, but don't forget the ''Goblin'' is now within TfL's purview. Also, ''Chelney'' (if ever built) is about equally likely to be called that as ''Crossrail 2'', but this will be named for teh areas of London served, not stations. Also I seem to remember one of the proposed names for what became the Victoria was the ''Viking Line'' (Victoria + Kings Cross) Another early idea for the Victoria line was Walvic (Waltamstow - Victoria). |
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Post by Chris M on Aug 8, 2010 23:40:15 GMT
I knew there was another one, but couldn't remember it. I do remember the same author saying the Victoria Line name was chosen not because it was particularly good but because nobody could think of anything better.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2010 15:55:52 GMT
How about London Rd at each end of the line, prior to loosing the Stanmore branch. You could add to that if you want. The rear exit of Stonebridge depot also comes out onto London Road. ;D I may have skipped over in reading this thread all at once but has anyone mentioned the "upsidedown" signal WS13 which gives access to the NR section from the north sheds? The only signal on the line (and possibly the combine) to look like a traffic light. |
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Post by ruislip on Aug 20, 2010 3:23:25 GMT
How about London Rd at each end of the line, prior to loosing the Stanmore branch. You could add to that if you want. The rear exit of Stonebridge depot also comes out onto London Road. ;D Slightly OT, but when I was born my family lived on London Road in High Wycombe.  ;D |
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Post by Phil on Aug 20, 2010 10:22:56 GMT
Another early idea for the Victoria line was Walvic (Waltamstow - Victoria). Which in view of the original and eventually implemented plans should have been Walton - or perhaps even Brixtow  . |
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 20, 2010 11:36:57 GMT
Only line to have a deep level terminus at one end, and an open air terminus at the other end.
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Post by Chris M on Aug 20, 2010 12:48:23 GMT
Only line to have a deep level terminus at one end, and an open air terminus at the other end. The DLR has the feature (Bank/all the other termini), and the Jubilee had it until the extension was opened. Arguably the Picc's Heathrow stations are deep level, meaning it too has one a deep level terminus and an open air terminus at the other end of the. Even more arguably perhaps, the Waterloo and City has this due to the Waterloo access shaft being open to the air. The Bakerloo is I think unique in serving a station anedm "North" a the south end of it's route. |
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Post by harlesden on Aug 20, 2010 13:05:36 GMT
Only line to have a deep level terminus at one end, and an open air terminus at the other end. Up until 1968, the only full length LU line (as opposed to a branch) with a deep level terminus |
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Post by slugabed on Aug 20, 2010 13:06:17 GMT
The Bakerloo is I think unique in serving a station anedm "North" a the south end of it's route. Correct me if I'm wrong,but isn't Lambeth North the only station in London to have a cardinal point in its name,but for which there are no stations with other cardinal points to distinguish it from...? There used to be a South Lambeth Goods... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2010 13:19:48 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong,but isn't Lambeth North the only station in London to have a cardinal point in its name,but for which there are no stations with other cardinal points to distinguish it from...? Westminster  |
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Post by slugabed on Aug 20, 2010 13:23:31 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong,but isn't Lambeth North the only station in London to have a cardinal point in its name,but for which there are no stations with other cardinal points to distinguish it from...? Westminster Not true! Distinguishes it from Up-minster!!! |
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Post by harlesden on Aug 20, 2010 13:27:53 GMT
There used to be an Enfield West
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Post by slugabed on Aug 20, 2010 13:34:16 GMT
There used to be an Enfield West I know you've taken the prize,and found an example,but there was (is) Enfield Town and Enfield Chase.Have there EVER been any other Lambeth stations? |
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Post by ruislip on Aug 20, 2010 13:53:10 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong,but isn't Lambeth North the only station in London to have a cardinal point in its name,but for which there are no stations with other cardinal points to distinguish it from...? Westminster or Eastcote ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2010 14:08:01 GMT
West Brompton?
East Putney even, depends if you count Putney Bridge as Putney or not
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Post by Chris M on Aug 20, 2010 14:38:37 GMT
West Silvertown is now unique, previously there was Silvertown (and London City Airport)
South Kenton has only Kenton for company, similarly there is Aldgate East, Waterloo East, South Wimbledon, South Tottenham and Dagenham East ("Hale", "Heathway" and "Dock" are not cardinal points). Now South Kentish Town is no more Kentish Town West also fits the bill.
Arguably, West India Quay and East India are members of the set too.
If "Central" is taken as a cardinal point then Hendon Central, Heathrow Central, Hackney Central and Walthamstow Central all can be admitted tot he club. If "Central" isn't, then North Wembley will be eligible for membership.
Northwood, Northwood Hills, Westferry, Westbourne Park, Southfields and Southgate are all of the Westminster ilk.
Probably the most confusing pair of stations though, Bromley South and South Bromley (which co-existed with these names between 1899 and 1944)!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2010 15:32:46 GMT
What about South Harrow, North Harrow, West Harrow, West Ruislip, North Greenwich, East Putney, West Finchley, South Ruislip, North Ealing, South Ealing, Hounslow East and Hounslow West, Clapham North, Clapham South, and West Hampstead?
EDIT: I misread Slugabed's post.. silly me. North Greenwich still counts though! And then there's Mill Hill East...
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Post by slugabed on Aug 20, 2010 15:40:08 GMT
West Brompton? East Putney even, depends if you count Putney Bridge as Putney or not West Brompton is good...there was a Brompton Road... I suppose it all depends on how you phrase the question,doesn't it? By "Station" I really meant station of any operator,I think,but a passenger station. Perhaps "Cardinal Points" is too limiting a phrase....perhaps I should have said "Geographical qualifier"? With this in mind,why is it called Lambeth North ? I know it is in the North of Lambeth,but it is the only station with Lambeth in its name. Let me reset the question....are there any stations with a geographical qualifier in their name whereby there never have been any other stations (of any operator) in the vicinity with either another geographical qualifier (or none at all) apart from Lambeth North. By "Name" I mean,of course,to include subsidiary names,and to have been the official name carried by the station concerned. |
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Post by harlesden on Aug 20, 2010 16:06:02 GMT
Anyone know why the name was changed?  |
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Post by gantshill on Aug 20, 2010 17:47:48 GMT
Stations - North Weald ? South Weald never had a station.
Terminals under and overground. As well as the Bakerloo, the original Piccadilly Line, Hamsptead Line (although one branch was all underground), and the Central London line from the time of the extention to Wood Lane until the eastern extentions were opened after WW2.
I am enjoying this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2010 20:26:29 GMT
Terminals under and overground. As well as the Bakerloo, the original Piccadilly Line, Hamsptead Line (although one branch was all underground), and the Central London line from the time of the extention to Wood Lane until the eastern extentions were opened after WW2.. Met at Aldgate (maybe not underground exactly, but certainly below street level!) |
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Post by SE13 on Aug 21, 2010 7:25:45 GMT
Anyone know why the name was changed? Wasn't it known as something else prior to Westminster Road Bridge before Lambeth North? |
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Post by Phil on Aug 21, 2010 9:37:04 GMT
I am enjoying this thread. of the total thread drift, or in spite of it??   ;D  |
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Post by Chris M on Aug 21, 2010 9:53:18 GMT
Wasn't it known as something else prior to Westminster Road Bridge before Lambeth North? Yes, Kennington Road between opening on 10 March 1906 and 4 August 1906. It was Westminster Bridge Road from 5 August 1906 until 14 April 1917. Since 15 April 1917 it's been Lambeth North. |
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Post by gantshill on Aug 21, 2010 11:04:31 GMT
I'm enjoying it both because of the thread drift, and also because it is making me think about the unique features of each line, both now, and historically.
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