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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2010 19:05:13 GMT
The Drain has been shut all day.
Some announcements are saying 'Track Failure', others are saying 'Technical Difficulties', neither actually giving any indication of the fault.
Does anybody know what the actual problem is, and what the chances are of it being fixed tomorrow?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2010 19:30:55 GMT
TfL website says Track Failure.
Assuming the maintenance heavies get the job done hopefully it'll be back up tomorrow.
If it's suspended the line, then it must be on a crossover or in the depot. Otherwise you could run a shuttle service on the non-affected side... if my memory is correct.
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Post by phillw48 on Dec 9, 2010 19:31:10 GMT
On the BBC London Breakfast news they said it was a broken down train.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2010 19:51:23 GMT
Line is re-open, according to live travel news now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2010 19:57:43 GMT
TfL website says Track Failure. Assuming the maintenance heavies get the job done hopefully it'll be back up tomorrow. If it's suspended the line, then it must be on a crossover or in the depot. Otherwise you could run a shuttle service on the non-affected side... if my memory is correct. well, it could be any piece of track that's not in one of the Bank platforms, if it's not in a non-vital part of the depot (the wash for instance, if it's still there) |
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Post by mrfs42 on Dec 9, 2010 23:09:42 GMT
well, it could be any piece of track that's not in one of the Bank platforms, And Waterloo, you can't trundle off bang road out of there. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2010 8:52:58 GMT
All seems to be up and running this morning.
Would just be nice to get a clear and consistent explanation from LU sometimes, instead of all of these mixed messages.
I have never seen them run a shuttle using a single tunnel. Even if the signalling allows it or it could be set up as 'one train in steam' with points clamped, it wouldn't provide anywhere near enough capacity in the peaks.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2010 10:40:29 GMT
well, it could be any piece of track that's not in one of the Bank platforms, And Waterloo, you can't trundle off bang road out of there. The more I read what I wrote, the less it makes sense.  What I meant was - if the broken rail is in one of the Bank platforms or in a non-vital depot road, you could run a service (though with one Bank platform out of service it'd be a bit reduced) |
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Post by mrfs42 on Dec 10, 2010 10:47:42 GMT
? What I meant was - if the broken rail is in one of the Bank platforms or in a non-vital depot road, you could run a service (though with one Bank platform out of service it'd be a bit reduced) Yes - but reduced too much to make it viable during the peaks; I suspect. Depends which platform... *wanders off into library* |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2010 19:23:21 GMT
The peak service only uses one platform at Bank anyway, with stepping-back employed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2010 22:12:42 GMT
The peak service only uses one platform at Bank anyway, with stepping-back employed. Only one platform, you sure? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2010 23:05:10 GMT
An interesting - and amusing - quote from this evening's Evening Standard:
" .... the Waterloo and City, which shut for most of yesterday after too much grease on the tracks caused trains to slip. A Tube source said: "It was like Bambi on acid." "
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Post by norbitonflyer on Dec 10, 2010 23:06:00 GMT
The peak service only uses one platform at Bank anyway, with stepping-back employed. Only one platform, you sure? I often use it - they invariably use only the one platform even in the peaks (not the same one every day though) |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2010 23:17:34 GMT
Indeed, I use it every day and they almost always use the southern platform at Bank (can't remember which way round the numbers are).
Presumably this is because it allows a faster exit (not having to go slowly across the crossover), arriving trains have to slow down anyway for the 'Moorgate Control'.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2010 6:23:16 GMT
Indeed, I use it every day and they almost always use the southern platform at Bank (can't remember which way round the numbers are). Presumably this is because it allows a faster exit (not having to go slowly across the crossover), arriving trains have to slow down anyway for the 'Moorgate Control'. I wouldnae touch the line if there was no moorgate control, with the position of the buffers at Bank! |
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Post by dazzmcguinness on Feb 8, 2011 23:23:03 GMT
What happened to cause all the dust on Monday morning? They have Sunday off all day for engineering so it surely couldn't have been work being delayed?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2011 0:10:01 GMT
How much works does that bloody line need?! It got completely refurbished a few years back!
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Post by railtechnician on Feb 9, 2011 2:47:55 GMT
How much works does that bloody line need?! It got completely refurbished a few years back! Who knows? The point is that running a railway, no matter how short, involves wear and tear and regular maintenance. Sometimes regular maintenance, housekeeping if you will, is not enough because wear and tear can be compensated up to a point at which overhaul is required. Then there is environment, nature is chiefly responsible for that and it can have undesirable effects especially in tunnels where water ingress and chemical deposits take their toll on the infrastructure and can lead to necessary corrective works. Then of course there is innovation and new technology which may also be a factor adding to engineering work. Unless one knows the situation it is difficult to quantify how much 'works' a line needs! |
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