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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2007 17:53:13 GMT
They've started recently at Turnpike Lane and Wood Green to play classical music over the speakers, to try to calm people down and discourage teenagers from gathering, etc. It's a bit of a failure at Wood Green because you're at street level, and the station is open to the noise - Turnpike is underground and not so open, so you can actually hear it. I'm not sure how well it's succeeding but I was very surprised to hear "Jerusalem" over the system at Wood Green last Sunday! Anyone know if it's having an effect, positive or negative, at these stations or any others, or any other thoughts on it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2007 17:56:02 GMT
They have this on Morden Group now too, at MOR it doesn't make too much of a difference. Trains create noise one side of the booking hall, and the buses/road make noise for the other. Station Staff there just ignore it. I don't think it's having much effect at the moment.
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Post by happybunny on Sept 30, 2007 18:19:03 GMT
I would quite like it I enjoy a bit of classical music... how about letting us have it on the trains
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Post by Chris M on Sept 30, 2007 19:17:19 GMT
I think this was originally an idea by the Tyne ans Wear Metro who used it at one/some of the less salubrious parts of their system (possibly orginally Byker). As it has been picked up by LU and others it must have had some success. Unlike the idea of perfuming the air at stations, iirc it was abandoned after the first day at the trial station (might have been Warren Street, but I'm not at all certain)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2007 19:21:04 GMT
Having previously been in retail, it was bandied around a lot there - I think the Co-Op (which was who I used to work for) had had some successful trials elsewhere in the country, and the Asda down the road either had that, or the Mosquito thing (high-pitched buzzing only younger people can hear). I noticed the Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy at Turnpike, actually, which seemed like a really incongruous choice.. and I think there were bits from Sleeping Beauty, too.
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Post by jamesb on Sept 30, 2007 19:36:08 GMT
I like the music, they played it at Woodford a while back too, before it got refurbished.
BUT I think it's unfair if you happened not to like classical music!
I had a few ideas myself: 'thing's can only get better' when there is a signal failure and 'the only way is up, baby' on the escalators! I imagine these songs would be equally effective to keep youths from congregating too.
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Post by Chris M on Sept 30, 2007 19:47:00 GMT
without wishing to be insensitive, Steps' version of tragedy could be used to clear a station following a one-under.
Down escalators could play Working In A Coal Mine by Lee Dorsey ("working in a coal mine, going down, down, down") while The Crazy World of Arthur Brown's big hit could replace the Inspector Sands message!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2007 21:15:44 GMT
"Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go" - played a few minutes before the last train goes?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2007 21:23:54 GMT
In my old job we had a normal radio station on (Capital FM or Virgin or something), sometimes I wish we had something similar in the booking hall. I have met staff who have bought their own little radio in before, particularly at stations where the SA works alone.
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Post by Colin on Oct 1, 2007 0:08:47 GMT
With regard to whether or not classical music works as an anti social tool, I believe it was quite a success at the east end of the District.
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Post by Ben on Oct 1, 2007 2:55:00 GMT
Its ironic that the one thing yobs find antisocial is real culture. A brilliant idea; I hope Harrow Group bring it in some time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2007 6:03:56 GMT
Harrow bus station does it, but thats still well dodgy at night. Last time I was at Brixton they had it and it seemed to have improved the ambience. This may well be a sign of the times though as Brixton (the station and town centre anyway) seems to have had a general facelift and the general appearance of the place has vastly improved in the last few years. You still get offered drugs quite openly in the street there (I've been offered them while wearing my LU uniform!) but it's certainly brightened the station up.
Maybe Stockwell could take a leaf out of that book? There are some first class lunatics hanging about down there.
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Post by Chris W on Oct 1, 2007 12:29:37 GMT
I quite like the idea of classical music being played - they do it at some national rail stations now too - Brentwood as an example
So what songs could they play them - a couple of decent suggestions already above....
How about Road to Nowhere by Talking Heads or Love Train by The O'Jaysl alternatively Trainspotters by John Hegley
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Post by pakenhamtrain on Oct 1, 2007 12:59:52 GMT
Morning Train by Sheena Easton or the Passengers on that X'trap to the City approching Burnley[/s] ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2007 13:20:34 GMT
Morningtown Ride at Mornington Crescent?
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Post by trapperjohn on Oct 1, 2007 15:55:56 GMT
you missed 'Going Underground'......The Jam
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Post by mrfs42 on Oct 1, 2007 17:17:57 GMT
I was in Brixton the other day, timing some RORITs; was pleasantly surprised to hear some classical music playing when I went up to concourse level. However I'm sure it was from Beethoven's Ninth which always hs connotations of 'A Clockwork Orange' to me.
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Post by emergencybrake on Oct 1, 2007 17:29:54 GMT
Do you know if they Play Classic FM for is it just from a CD?
I pass through Wood Green quite often and as a classical music lover, its really a nice addition to the station, they should play it on the platform too. The last time I exited the station, it played Mozart's Eine Kleine Nachtmusik's second movement (Romance).
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Post by mrfs42 on Oct 1, 2007 17:48:16 GMT
Do you know if they Play Classic FM for is it just from a CD? It's not Classic FM as there aren't any of those interminable bloody adverts that are quite annoying in their incessant repetition fine examples of the advertisers' craft. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2007 18:08:36 GMT
I've heard Classical Music being played at Harrow Bus Station, Stratford, and Rayners Lane... Quite pleasing to the ears I might add...
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Post by jamesb on Oct 1, 2007 19:52:20 GMT
The classical music is very pleasing to the ears... It calms me down! I thought recently about the idea of playing similar music in a tube carriage if it was stuck underground for more than 10 minutes or something, but the only problem is that it's a bit claustrophobic, and what for some people might be relaxing, might be torture for others...
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Post by Chris M on Oct 2, 2007 1:42:06 GMT
What you want then is each train to be equipped with a low-power radio transmitter, broadcasting a channel of music, another the announcements made by the driver, DVA and a central network update. Maybe even have a channel giving an audio tour of the tube (like the audio guides you get at castles, etc) giving details of the history, construction, stock, special/unique features of the line etc.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2007 5:20:03 GMT
they play all sorts of strange music on trains abroad. on russian long distance trains the carriage attendant is allowed their own choice of music (you want one who doesn't like generic russian pop). the passengers just have to lump it. there is a volume control in each compartment, but like train radios or that thing on the wall in george orwell's 1984, you can't turn it off! i think it stems from the communist days where rousing music was played in all public buildings and in the street at certain times of day to spur on the workers. now it just causes annoyance. quite a few asian countries play classical music over the PA on subway trains to alert passengers they are coming up to an interchange or terminus. think it's best left out of the cars here though, unless of course some antisocial w*nker is playing 50 cent or some other scumbag's "music" out loud on a tinny mobile phone, but stations are fine - especially classical as its inoffensive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2007 10:52:03 GMT
I think it would take the edge of waiting for the next train if there are long delays, especially if you're all alone on the platform with nothing to do apart from watch the paint peel off the tunnel walls twiddle your thumbs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2007 15:46:50 GMT
you missed 'Going Underground'......The Jam now that is a good song have you heard amiter transplants version? ;D
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