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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2012 8:07:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2012 9:04:45 GMT
S stock hasn't come out to play today It can't run today as both Platforms 3 & 4 at MGT are in use with Met's terminating. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2012 9:48:12 GMT
I'm uncertain about the rear, but no doors opened in the first carriage When i was going past Baker Street Westbound, only the third door opened in the front car. The front 2 were closed. They've also put signs at baker street in the tunnel saying 'Move down the Train to Exit' But they only left when the driver said its easier to change at Barbican. They didnt listen to the DVA saying The train terminates at Moorgate. Its kinda common sense as well |
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Post by Deep Level on Jul 7, 2012 13:53:19 GMT
I notice that the Wimbleware District Line isn't on the line maps, will it be added later or will that now be run off trains used on the rest of the District Line when they get S7's?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2012 14:04:15 GMT
I notice that the Wimbleware District Line isn't on the line maps, will it be added later or will that now be run off trains used on the rest of the District Line when they get S7's? The Edgware Road-Earl's Court section is on the District line map on the S7 |
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Post by Deep Level on Jul 7, 2012 14:18:36 GMT
Oh ok, the photo's I've seen only show the Circle/ H&C Line map. So is the wimbleware now shown as part of the main district line?
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Post by 21146 on Jul 7, 2012 15:42:20 GMT
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Post by dmncf on Jul 7, 2012 16:52:45 GMT
It's strange that the District line diagram no longer indicates that all District line trains from Edgware Road go to Wimbledon. Is there an intention to alter the service pattern in future once all District line trains use the same rolling stock, or at least to indicate that a more flexible can operate e.g. during disruption? |
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Post by causton on Jul 7, 2012 17:58:31 GMT
It's strange that the District line diagram no longer indicates that all District line trains from Edgware Road go to Wimbledon. Is there an intention to alter the service pattern in future once all District line trains use the same rolling stock, or at least to indicate that a more flexible can operate e.g. during disruption? I don't think anyone knows for certain, however the H+C and Circle lines were interlinked in timetables previously (only changed to keep S stock on the H+C initially) so I cannot see why they can't mix between District, or even mix District, Circle and H+C! (Hammersmith depot - Edgware Road - Wimbledon - Barking - Edgware Road - Hammersmith etc) |
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Post by Fahad on Jul 7, 2012 19:15:49 GMT
I think a significant amount of journeys starting on the Hammersmith branch are to the City, rather than Edgware Road or before. Edgware Road doesn't provide any interchange other than onwards, or Bakerloo via a walk
How many trains could be reasonably reversed at Baker Street?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2012 20:01:01 GMT
I think a significant amount of journeys starting on the Hammersmith branch are to the City, rather than Edgware Road or before. Edgware Road doesn't provide any interchange other than onwards, or Bakerloo via a walk How many trains could be reasonably reversed at Baker Street? Very unlikely as Baker Street East Junction is incredibly busy |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2012 20:10:14 GMT
It's strange that the District line diagram no longer indicates that all District line trains from Edgware Road go to Wimbledon. Is there an intention to alter the service pattern in future once all District line trains use the same rolling stock, or at least to indicate that a more flexible can operate e.g. during disruption? They don't do that now! When the mon-fri exhibition service is operating a proportion of peak trains from Edgware Road run to Olympia. (The platform describers can also show this, which is interesting as I was under the impression they couldn't, so suspect a recentish modification) Anyway, as you observe when the whole District service is S7 operated then a service re-cast is a likely option and an available option anytime thereafter. |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jul 13, 2012 15:14:41 GMT
One of the S7s that is supposed to run in pax service (1510 MGT - HMS) is currently stabled in platform 4 at MGT as Not In Service. It also displays 261 for the train number instead of 700.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 19:02:33 GMT
I caught what I assume was the 1510 Moorgate-Hammersmith,travelling in car 25302,showing Train 700 from Royal Oak to Hammersmith where it came out of service today (Friday).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 20:22:27 GMT
Does anyone now if this was the first day of passenger service of Train 59 (21302-21301), or has it carried passengers earlier in the week?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 20:26:12 GMT
Does anyone now if this was the first day of passenger service of Train 59 (21302-21301), or has it carried passengers earlier in the week? It was in service yesterday |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 21:03:40 GMT
Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 18:40:51 GMT
so are there 2 S7s running in service or still 1?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 14, 2012 18:48:45 GMT
so are there 2 S7s running in service or still 1? One runs in passenger service as T700. At present it can be formed of either 21301/302 or 21305/306. |
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Post by fleetline on Jul 16, 2012 19:30:37 GMT
Does anyone know what the SDO does to the front and rear doors at Baker St? Is it the same for both directions? Technically it's what it doesn't do. Going of Bombardier's Electrostar SDO, all doors have to be cleared to open. Now the 377's use either GPS (as on Southern) or track side balise. If it doesn't get a GPS signal or detect a balise, it won't release the doors. If it can see where it is the SDO will authorise certain or all doors to open. You overridde the system but it takes a few minutes. ** EDIT ** Now I've had my first ride on an S7, and train 1 was well!  21302 at Moorgate by Sparkyscrum, on Flickr |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2012 17:17:16 GMT
To save anyone a wasted trip T700 is cancelled this Saturday 21st July.
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jul 17, 2012 17:31:59 GMT
Bit off topic (not H&C), but why are there S7 stopping marks at Sloane Square on both platforms, but no where else on the District between Gloucester Road and Embankment? I haven't travelled east of Embankment recently so wouldn't know. To save anyone a wasted trip T700 is cancelled this Saturday 21st July. Why? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2012 17:38:05 GMT
Bit off topic (not H&C), but why are there S7 stopping marks at Sloane Square on both platforms, but no where else on the District between Gloucester Road and Embankment? I haven't travelled east of Embankment recently so wouldn't know. To save anyone a wasted trip T700 is cancelled this Saturday 21st July. Maintenance work in Hammersmith Depot! Why? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2012 18:35:18 GMT
Bit off topic (not H&C), but why are there S7 stopping marks at Sloane Square on both platforms, but no where else on the District between Gloucester Road and Embankment? I haven't travelled east of Embankment recently so wouldn't know. To save anyone a wasted trip T700 is cancelled this Saturday 21st July. Why? S7 stopping marks are at nearly every District line platform between Upney and Earls Court now. |
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Post by trainopd78 on Jul 17, 2012 18:39:58 GMT
Don't worry, its all work in progress. once the Olympics is done and dusted you'll find these things start to appear at other locations too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2012 15:17:49 GMT
Finally got to ride a H&C S7 after several abortive attempts. Seen here approaching Paddington around 11.40 car 21304 leading. Clicky for piccy<<Rincew1nd - edit: Image changed to link, as per forum rule  >>Bit of an interesting day. Caught the Parliamentry train from West Ruislip to Paddington and there were actually people on board - five of us. Got my Oyster thoroughly inspected by guard who made sure I knew train was going to Paddington. Halted somewhere near Acton while what I think was the Bath & Avon Explorer special went overhead. Finished up this afternoon travelling London Bridge to London Victoria via Denmark Hill prior to London Overground conversion. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2012 16:05:11 GMT
Slightly off-topic, but where does the the term "Parliamentary" come from?
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Post by neilwatson on Sept 11, 2012 16:20:20 GMT
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 11, 2012 16:22:08 GMT
Slightly off-topic, but where does the the term "Parliamentary" come from? Originally the term was used for a service provided s[pecifically to meet the requirements of the Railway Regulation Act of 1844, which required the provision on every passenger line of at least one train a day each way at a speed of not less than 12 miles an hour including stops, which were to be made at all stations, and of carriages protected from the weather and provided with seats, charged at a rate of not more than a penny a mile. Needless to the say the railways complied with the letter of this law by running these services at very inconvenient times, and using their very oldest rolling stock, to avoid abstracting revenue from their more profitable services. More recently the term has been used for token services - often as few as one a week - operated to keep a line officially open to avoid going through the formal closure process. This has sometimes been followed by a closure proposal, as by then the inspector investigating the "hardship" that would be caused to users by the proposed closure will minimal - as there will be no users. The daily Paddington service operated by Chiltern also has another puropse, as it allows an opportunity for drivers to keep up knowledge of a diversionary route. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2012 16:24:58 GMT
"Parliamentary" trains are ones which TOC's (or whoever) are obliged to run rather than close a route to passenger trains which would involve a long legal process.
In the London area such trains I know of are:
Chiltern Trains dep Gerrards Cross 10.44 calling at Denham and West Ruislip to arrive London Paddington 11.32 then a quick turnaround (today on platform 14) depart 11.36 calling at South Ruislip to West Ruislip arr 12.17. The former GW/GC main line from South Ruislip to London Paddington is normally freight only but sometimes used at weekends for diversions away from Marylebone.
Southern Trains dep Kensington Olympia 10.02 calling West Brompton and Imperial Wharf to Wandsworth Road. Return departs Clapham High Road 16.11 calling Wandsworth Road, Imperial Wharf, West Brompton arr Kensington Olympia 16.29. This covers part of the route used by Cross Country services to Kent via Herne Hill and Bromley South and I believe there is (was) a covering bus service from Ealing Broadway for part of this no longer used passenger route.
There are a handful of other examples around the country.
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