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Post by ducatisti on Jul 29, 2012 9:08:56 GMT
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Post by grahamhewett on Jul 29, 2012 11:53:18 GMT
Interesting. To get the thread going, here's a couple of points of transport interest:
- the traffic jams; it's a matter of record that traffic speeds in central London are now no better than in 1900. (The GPO kept records of horse-drawn van delivery speeds for many decades. so the comparison is reasonably sound).
- nice shots of Thames sailing barges fully rigged - none of this "entertainment" barge nonsense.
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Post by rsdworker on Jul 29, 2012 18:01:20 GMT
i notice the Notting Hill Gate has crossover on photo shows one of tracks lead to next track but i think its was removed in later years
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2012 20:06:14 GMT
It has not changed much.  |
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Post by grahamhewett on Jul 30, 2012 9:12:46 GMT
It's not obvious what the Notting Hill crossover would have achieved - so far down the platform face, it would have shortened the length available for a conventional run round (assuming that there was a matching crossover at the other end).
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Post by castlebar on Jul 30, 2012 9:53:50 GMT
@ grahamhewett
I thought that too. A bizarre placement position. Pointless (ha ha) in fact!!
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Post by Deep Level on Jul 31, 2012 2:12:47 GMT
I've seen these in a lot of photos of stations from years ago, I've never understood the point in it especially when it could be a bit further down.
Also how come the tracks are so short (or is the ballast high?)?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 3:04:43 GMT
I've never understood the point in it especially when it could be a bit further down. Perhaps to turn around the locomotives? |
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Post by pitdiver on Jul 31, 2012 4:25:31 GMT
It has not changed much. Do the passengers still stand on the tracks then LOL. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 8:56:55 GMT
Do the passengers still stand on the tracks then LOL. I think those are workmen, putting finishing touches before opening Also how come the tracks are so short (or is the ballast high?)? High ballast, typical of the time. "The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there" And not just the things you expect to be different. Totally unreachable, be it ever so close. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 14:55:39 GMT
Do the passengers still stand on the tracks then LOL. I think those are workmen, putting finishing touches before opening Also how come the tracks are so short (or is the ballast high?)? High ballast, typical of the time. "The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there" And not just the things you expect to be different. Totally unreachable, be it ever so close. They do like staff. You are right about it being unreachable. It might as well be another universe. A 1963 film about the history of the Underground, watch out (3 mins into the video) for L.T. Chief of Civil Engineering, C.E. Dutton standing, nearly 100 years later after the Victorian photo was taken, on the inner rail platform at Notting Hill Gate and a splendid red R stock pulls in.  |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 31, 2012 16:48:15 GMT
on the inner rail platform at Notting Hill Gate and a splendid red R stock pulls in. O/P stock, surely? Did R stock ever run north of High St Ken? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 16:58:04 GMT
Looks like R stock to me - fluorescent tubes inside the passenger saloons and a destination blind in the top of the offside cab window. Presumably a 6-car set.
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Post by grahamhewett on Jul 31, 2012 17:22:47 GMT
Weren't there some Saturday District workings round the north side of the Circle on football days?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 18:57:51 GMT
I guess that 6-car R stock sets might have been used on Edgware Road services. Also - there are certainly Forum members with a better memory / better knowledge than I have, but was it not the case that, on Sundays, the Circle line service was shared between the District and Metropolitan lines - ? Either could, perhaps, explain a train of R stock at NHG.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 19:32:11 GMT
on the inner rail platform at Notting Hill Gate and a splendid red R stock pulls in. O/P stock, surely? Did R stock ever run north of High St Ken? Yes, I would thought the same as you and expect an O/P stock at Notting Hill Gate. However, what caught my eye firstly was the emergency light over the cab door, those beautiful glass fluted shades which the R stock had at the car ends, then as the train pulls out the florescent lighting, the diamond shape door indicator lamp, the destination & set number boxes, as well as twin electric tail lights. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 19:38:55 GMT
I guess that 6-car R stock sets might have been used on Edgware Road services. Also - there are certainly Forum members with a better memory / better knowledge than I have, but was it not the case that, on Sundays, the Circle line service was shared between the District and Metropolitan lines - ? Either could, perhaps, explain a train of R stock at NHG. I expect that it would be chosen to do such filming on a Sunday. Those old, quiet London Sundays. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 22:19:30 GMT
At that time the District Line trains were Q & R stock, in 6 or 8 car formations (4+2 or 4+2+2). COP was Met stock (for Uxbridge, H&C and Circle services) - it would only start moving onto the District when the A62 stock (ordered for Uxbridge) arrived.
And AIUI any District 6-car train could be used for any District turn (which IIRC included some Circle trains on Sundays, and some other workings to Moorgate).
It was only with the C77 stock that Wimbleware received a fleet separate from the rest of the District, and combined with the H&C/Circle fleet.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 31, 2012 22:45:25 GMT
Mea culpa - I hadn't noticed the sequence where it pulled out - the destination blind is a giveaway. And all-red R stock was becoming a rarity by 1963. I assume R stock operation north of HSK ceased before all trains were reformed to 7car (instead of 6/8)
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