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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 22:15:37 GMT
Hi all,
I have received a leaflet from Crossrail outlining some changes to the DLR between Royal Victoria and Custom House.
Work will start between September and Christmas to prepare the area between Royal Victoria and Custom House for the portal entrance / exit for Crossrail.
Over Christmas the DLR track will be completely moved to the left on the current car / lorry park of the Excel site. This will create space for Crossrail.
I assume trains will leave Custom House and do a fairly sharp left and then as they approach Royal Victoria swing back in line with the station.
I understand this was planned a few years back but then changed when they was going to shut Victoria Dock Road instead but now gone back to the original idea.
I am glad they have decided not to shut Victoria Dock Road as we already lost out bus service for over a year in the previous closure ;D
Dan
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Post by rsdworker on Aug 18, 2012 17:27:49 GMT
can you link to leaflet? also its will be permeant track or just temporary tracks because moving tracks over the existing area
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Post by Deep Level on Aug 18, 2012 17:58:29 GMT
When you say "to the left" I'm assuming you mean when looking towards Royal Vic from Custom House? Please clarify.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 19:37:53 GMT
When you say "to the left" I'm assuming you mean when looking towards Royal Vic from Custom House? Please clarify. To answer both question I only have a paper leaflet that was posted to me. Nothing showing on the Crossrail website yet.... The track is being moved left towards Royal Victoria - If you are traveling towards Royal Victoria you will see some land in the Excel site were lorries currently park when events take place. This is where I mean. Hope this helps. |
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Post by rsdworker on Aug 18, 2012 20:45:09 GMT
so means permanent or just temporary?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 20:55:46 GMT
so means permanent or just temporary? No idea - I suspect the track could be moved back but depends how big the tunnel portal will be. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 9:07:17 GMT
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Post by crusty54 on Aug 19, 2012 11:55:02 GMT
the Crossrail website states that the platforms will be beside DLR platforms with a ticket office above them.
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Post by Ben on Aug 19, 2012 14:10:28 GMT
Pity some sort of cross platform interchange can't be provided. Anywhere, for that matter.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 14:49:32 GMT
the Crossrail website states that the platforms will be beside DLR platforms with a ticket office above them. The platform changes are nothing to do with this work... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 17:12:13 GMT
so means permanent or just temporary? The current alignment will be lost to the Crossrail portal. The original plan was to realign the tracks over the Excel Lorry park during construction of the portal. Once construction of the portal was completed a further realignment would take place moving the tracks back towards the current alignment as much as possible but not on the existing alignment. Whether this is still the plan I do not know. Plan: www.crossrail.co.uk/assets/library/document/v/original/victoria_dock_portal.pdf |
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Post by elsombernie on Aug 23, 2012 16:05:17 GMT
<snip> I am glad they have decided not to shut Victoria Dock Road as we already lost out bus service for over a year in the previous closure ;D Dan, sorry to disappoint you, but I received a document at work yesterday with this little gem in it: o Victoria Dock Road E16. Crossrail works o Start: 01 October o End: 09 December 2012 o Routes 147, 241, N550 Victoria Dock Road will be closed in the same place as May 2011 to facilitate removal of services that were disconnected last year. Service alterations being considered, but similar to those last year, then 250m of single lane alternative traffic signal controlled road until August 2015. The mention of N550 is an error by the author, as it should, of course, be N551. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2012 19:58:29 GMT
<snip> I am glad they have decided not to shut Victoria Dock Road as we already lost out bus service for over a year in the previous closure ;D Dan, sorry to disappoint you, but I received a document at work yesterday with this little gem in it: o Victoria Dock Road E16. Crossrail works o Start: 01 October o End: 09 December 2012 o Routes 147, 241, N550 Victoria Dock Road will be closed in the same place as May 2011 to facilitate removal of services that were disconnected last year. Service alterations being considered, but similar to those last year, then 250m of single lane alternative traffic signal controlled road until August 2015. The mention of N550 is an error by the author, as it should, of course, be N551. Hmmmm!!! not happy about this! Why can't they do the work using a single lane I wonder. I know this is in the Docklands topic but it is frustrating that we lost our bus service from May 11 until June 12 now losing it again? So the rumor the road opened just for the Olympics was true ;D Hope we get a better replacement than the rather pointless 541. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2012 12:03:33 GMT
Construction of the new Custom House station will begin at the start of next year -http://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/custom-house-award-brings-orourke-its-third-crossrail-station mgov.newham.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=50099 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2012 14:00:37 GMT
Construction of the new Custom House station will begin at the start of next year -http://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/custom-house-award-brings-orourke-its-third-crossrail-station mgov.newham.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=50099I hope those rather expensive escalators are used on the new station otherwise that was £2000000 wasted ;D |
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Post by revupminster on Aug 30, 2012 14:01:35 GMT
Surely they could have moved the DLR tracks or the portals to give cross platform interchange. This design seems so short sighted.
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Post by Deep Level on Aug 30, 2012 14:15:01 GMT
The money needed to do that just isn't justifiable. You'll need to elevate the DLR between Custom House and Prince Regent to get the tracks back in place for Prince Regent Station and for what? Just so that people can change on the same platform for a train to Beckton? The only good I can see from this is changing for a train to Stratford during peak times on the same platform but even then it doesn't justify the spend.
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Post by Chris M on Aug 30, 2012 22:44:12 GMT
I hope those rather expensive escalators are used on the new station otherwise that was �2000000 wasted ;D If you look at page 58 of that PDF you'll see the escalators won't be touched at all. However, if I'm reading the documents right, there wont be more than passive provision for escalators to the Crossrail platforms intitially. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2012 15:34:30 GMT
Am i correct in assuming that the present entrance (Custom House) to the DLR in Victoria Dock road will close permanently?
There is a stairway, lift and bridge linking the DLR with Custom house and looking at the artist drawings for the new Crossrail station these seem to be in the way.
According to the original plans there is a building on the corner of Freemasons Road and Victoria Dock Road, currently being used by the council to house the homeless. This building was to be demolished and a new entrance built for Crossrail. If i seem to remember you would go up escalators then walk over a bridge above Victoria Dock Road then down escalators for the Crossrail platforms. Is this still the plan?
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Post by rsdworker on Aug 31, 2012 17:53:49 GMT
the plans show only 1 lift and no escalators to crossrail - its really wrong - i think its should have entrance area from that road - the concourse looks well designed - its more simllar to WMATA or BART stations - they feature open air concourse with roofs - in WMATA - the orginal stations had one lift and usually a pair of escalators and some stairways
the newer stations (post 2004) usually feature two or three lifts and more escalators and stairways on WMATA system
Bart has one new station - its simllar to one crossrail that will build - only one lift and few escalators and stairways
DLR had installed second lift at that station so that's what crossrail should have
the entrance area from that road means people will unable to enter from that road which DLR entrance would demolished means alot people will not use that station so crossrail needs rethink and maybe build new entrance at that location or ask DLR to build one (from second link bridge) which was planned to extend over crossrail platforms its would feature second lift or third lift because the station has too much plant rooms - the DLR has few plant rooms at stations - more space for platform use - custom house platforms has no plant rooms on platform level so if they reduce the plant rooms means more space for platform use - its would feature full concourse length means more lifts and escalators
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2012 19:34:08 GMT
the plans show only 1 lift and no escalators to crossrail - its really wrong - i think its should have entrance area from that road - the concourse looks well designed - its more simllar to WMATA or BART stations - they feature open air concourse with roofs - in WMATA - the orginal stations had one lift and usually a pair of escalators and some stairways the newer stations (post 2004) usually feature two or three lifts and more escalators and stairways on WMATA system Bart has one new station - its simllar to one crossrail that will build - only one lift and few escalators and stairways DLR had installed second lift at that station so that's what crossrail should have the entrance area from that road means people will unable to enter from that road which DLR entrance would demolished means alot people will not use that station so crossrail needs rethink and maybe build new entrance at that location or ask DLR to build one (from second link bridge) which was planned to extend over crossrail platforms its would feature second lift or third lift because the station has too much plant rooms - the DLR has few plant rooms at stations - more space for platform use - custom house platforms has no plant rooms on platform level so if they reduce the plant rooms means more space for platform use - its would feature full concourse length means more lifts and escalators Of course you will be able to access the DLR from the same side as now - they plan to build a new entrance as mentioned where the old pub currently stands. Just the entrance will be in a different place. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2012 7:38:08 GMT
the plans show only 1 lift and no escalators to crossrail - its really wrong - i think its should have entrance area from that road - the concourse looks well designed - its more simllar to WMATA or BART stations - they feature open air concourse with roofs - in WMATA - the orginal stations had one lift and usually a pair of escalators and some stairways the newer stations (post 2004) usually feature two or three lifts and more escalators and stairways on WMATA system Bart has one new station - its simllar to one crossrail that will build - only one lift and few escalators and stairways DLR had installed second lift at that station so that's what crossrail should have the entrance area from that road means people will unable to enter from that road which DLR entrance would demolished means alot people will not use that station so crossrail needs rethink and maybe build new entrance at that location or ask DLR to build one (from second link bridge) which was planned to extend over crossrail platforms its would feature second lift or third lift because the station has too much plant rooms - the DLR has few plant rooms at stations - more space for platform use - custom house platforms has no plant rooms on platform level so if they reduce the plant rooms means more space for platform use - its would feature full concourse length means more lifts and escalators The new Crossrail station will have lifts, ramps and stairs and will be step free. www.crossrail.co.uk/route/stations/custom-house/design#content. There is no need for 2 entrances on Freemasons Road as the majority of people who will use this station will either be interchanging with the DLR or using the service to the Excel centre. Having 2 entrances opposite each other on Freemasons Road will be economics of the mad house and just create confusion. The location of the new station is perfect for the local community as they will no longer have to cross Victoria Dock road to access this station. WMATA - BART ? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 10:26:42 GMT
Morning after a rather loud night of DLR work  Well pretty much as soon as the DLR closed last night work started on removing the existing track between Royal Victoria and Custom House. Work had started previously on laying the new section of track on the old Excel lorry Park. Makes me wonder if these works will really need such a long closure? Frustrating thing is they seem to work harder during the night and stand around in the day ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 12:05:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2013 20:43:02 GMT
All went to plan as visit proved all running smoothly this morning.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 18:10:57 GMT
Was on the train this morning, was surprised how little the tracks have actually been moved, Does anybody know when they are going to start construction on the Crossrail station at Custom House?
I was under the impression it was the beginning of this year, however the site of the new station entrance is still in use as a council hostel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 21:05:57 GMT
Was on the train this morning, was surprised how little the tracks have actually been moved, Does anybody know when they are going to start construction on the Crossrail station at Custom House? I was under the impression it was the beginning of this year, however the site of the new station entrance is still in use as a council hostel. Yes the track never got moved much - but ruined many peoples Christmas with 24 hour noise and finished just as Christmas did on the 27th no idea why they couldn't have started on the 27th! nothing went on between the 27th until about the 29th /30th when testing started. Everything always seems to run late on the Victoria Dock works.
The current utility removals have been extended to March 13.
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