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Post by davidp on May 28, 2014 10:55:15 GMT
Using data provided by TfL under various Freedom of Information requests I have put together Working Timetable documents for the DLR. My first attempt was to produce one document containing all DLR lines but there were various complications with that approach which have led me to produce separate document for each line - I include Stratford International to Beckton and Stratford International to Woolwich Arsenal as one line since they use the same rolling-stock. PDF versions of the documents are available from the links below, please feel free to download them. The colours in the documents could be thought of as garish but as I didn't want them to look like official TfL documents, I just (mis-)used some bus timetable printing software that I'd written earlier and kept those colours. Because I've separated them into each line, there will be stations and sections of track for which you will need to look into multiple documents to get a full picture of what goes there and when I have another work break (which may not be for a while) I will look at alternative ways of presenting the data to provide a full picture. I've also include as much information as I have about timings for entering and exiting junctions and I've tried to include precise locations for each junction but you may need to look at a track-plan like the one on this map to get a clearer picture. There are also some locations or timing-points for which I have no details and I would be grateful if anyone could fill in the blanks for me. I've included Platform numbers but at the various multi-platform termini, all trains appear to serve just one of those platforms when observations suggest trains can use either platform. The links to the documents are: Bank to Lewisham, Bank to Woolwich Arsenal, Stratford and Canary Wharf or Lewisham, Stratford International to Beckton or Woolwich Arsenal and Tower Gateway to BecktonIf anyone has positive feedback or suggestions that I'd really like to hear it and when I get time I'll see if I can incorporate any suggestions into another set of documents. Cheers David P
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May 28, 2014 11:32:11 GMT
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Post by domh245 on May 28, 2014 11:32:11 GMT
That looks very good, certainly more detailed than usual WTTs. Normal WTTs usually have key timing points, with the intermediate stops left out, but running times provided at the start of each WTT. I like yours, as it gives you a lot of information, but if you remove some of the intermediate stops, leaving in junctions and reversing points, then you may even be able to fit all of the lines into one. Trying to think of other bits and bobs, you could add in grids so that times can be more easily referenced, but that's just me, others may find it better without.
(NB this is based on a quick flick through of the Bank-Lewisham timetable, so others will probably come along with other points (or ridicule mine) its also worth noting I'm not much of a DLR aficionado)
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Post by davidp on May 28, 2014 11:57:49 GMT
That looks very good, certainly more detailed than usual WTTs. Normal WTTs usually have key timing points, with the intermediate stops left out, but running times provided at the start of each WTT. I like yours, as it gives you a lot of information, but if you remove some of the intermediate stops, leaving in junctions and reversing points, then you may even be able to fit all of the lines into one. Trying to think of other bits and bobs, you could add in grids so that times can be more easily referenced, but that's just me, others may find it better without. (NB this is based on a quick flick through of the Bank-Lewisham timetable, so others will probably come along with other points (or ridicule mine) its also worth noting I'm not much of a DLR aficionado) Thank you for this. The reason it doesn't have gridlines is the way the original printing software worked, just printing one big blob of data, and in my first attempts, I did try to include grids but just couldn't get the lines to line-up in the correct position. I will have another go at this with grid lines but unfortunately it won't be for a little while yet. I also take you point about omitting some intermediate stations, but in this version at least I just wanted to print everything that I had. But again, thanks for the comment and and I'll see if I would be able to do a summary all lines timetable in addition to these ones.
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May 29, 2014 5:31:19 GMT
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Post by melikepie on May 29, 2014 5:31:19 GMT
Having looked quickly at Stratford to Beckton, you have mixed up the order of stations so unless the train teleports, the correct order should be Royal Victoria, Custom House, Prince Regent, Royal Albert, Beckton Park, Cyprus, Gallions Reach and finally Beckton.
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Post by davidp on May 29, 2014 9:03:55 GMT
Having looked quickly at Stratford to Beckton, you have mixed up the order of stations so unless the train teleports, the correct order should be Royal Victoria, Custom House, Prince Regent, Royal Albert, Beckton Park, Cyprus, Gallions Reach and finally Beckton. Corrected (hopefully!). New version of Stratford International to Beckton or Woolwich Arsenal
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 11:03:06 GMT
Good work there davidp! You've put in a lot of effort.
I find the timetabling around the headhunt at Bank quite interesting. It only allows 30secs between the train departing the departure platform, to the next train arriving in the departure platform. Pretty sure the platform re-occupation time is longer than 30secs. However, given the 90 sec dwell time in the departure platform, it's a bit of a moot point.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 16:14:08 GMT
I only use DLR one week a year, but it's still useful for me. What I'd really like to see is the timetables uploaded in their original format (instead of PDF) - this is no matter if it's Excel or Publisher or something else.
This could make help me when I'm going to make
A) a socalled branch timetable for the Beckton branch showing trains running between Canning Town and Beckton including those for Tower Gateway, those for Stratford International and the exit and enter ones.
B) a socalled to go departure board for Beckton trains at Canning Town showing you the exact departure time for all platforms and a mark showing which platform the trains is departing from helping you when you're getting of the Jubilee Line.
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Post by greatkingrat on Jun 1, 2014 13:49:13 GMT
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Post by davidp on Jun 10, 2014 12:30:00 GMT
I only use DLR one week a year, but it's still useful for me. What I'd really like to see is the timetables uploaded in their original format (instead of PDF) - this is no matter if it's Excel or Publisher or something else. This could make help me when I'm going to make A) a socalled branch timetable for the Beckton branch showing trains running between Canning Town and Beckton including those for Tower Gateway, those for Stratford International and the exit and enter ones. B) a socalled to go departure board for Beckton trains at Canning Town showing you the exact departure time for all platforms and a mark showing which platform the trains is departing from helping you when you're getting of the Jubilee Line. The original XLS files as 'greatkingrat' has referenced are useful but not exactly user-friendly - it's probably worth you having a look through them though to see if you can extract the information that you want. In the mean time please feel free to look through an All Beckton version that I've done that contains times for both the Beckton to Tower Gateway and Beckton to Stratford International services. The caveat is that at 9.1mb and 127 pages, it may be a bit unwieldy and I think at least one journey is in the wrong position (and I can't work out why!). It's also a bit of a work-in-progress but sorry, I can't let development on this get in the way of my real job so I can't devote that much time to it at the moment. Cheers David P
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Post by mrfs42 on Jun 10, 2014 13:04:11 GMT
Excellent work there; I am mightily impressed.
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Post by melikepie on Jun 18, 2014 1:07:31 GMT
Just quickly, in the Stratford to Canary Wharf timetable, where has Langdon Park disappeared to?
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Post by davidp on Jun 18, 2014 10:00:48 GMT
Just quickly, in the Stratford to Canary Wharf timetable, where has Langdon Park disappeared to? Oops! Try Again
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