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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2005 8:08:55 GMT
I've come across this: tinyurl.com/akaajI take it there was no train radio in 1959 and there were speakers by the track an presumably the driver had to do a lot of shoutng!
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Post by setttt on Nov 21, 2005 8:14:46 GMT
I take it there was no train radio in 1959 and there were speakers by the track an presumably the driver had to do a lot of shoutng! They're still used here at Northfields. When drivers are due to draw forward to the outlet signal, the shunter checks that they're ready over the radio. If the driver doesn't respond (after several attempts of contacting him), the shunter gets angry and uses the loudspeaker instead.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2005 17:47:16 GMT
I take it there was no train radio in 1959 and there were speakers by the track an presumably the driver had to do a lot of shoutng! This is still the method of communication between Signal Ops and Train Ops in Rickmansworth South Sidings. This is because there is no signalling in there until you reach the outlet onto the mainline.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2005 23:00:09 GMT
IIRC Upminster still has that - as a West end driver, I hardly ever get near upminster depot. Took a train off the reception road there the other day, which is the nearest I've been since my road training!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2005 23:11:55 GMT
Q8 once said that Upminster Depot was intended to be equipped with full LT signalling, with motored points, track circuits and dummies in all the appropriate locations, with the control tower having full control over such - the plan even got to the point of assigning an interlocking code, FN, and might have even included T/D setup to save the FM signalman some legwork.
I suppose the loudspeaker system was what was actually used in lieu of full signalling.
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Post by Colin on Nov 22, 2005 2:06:29 GMT
Q8 once said that Upminster Depot was intended to be equipped with full LT signalling, with motored points, track circuits and dummies in all the appropriate locations, with the control tower having full control over such - the plan even got to the point of assigning an interlocking code, FN, and might have even included T/D setup to save the FM signalman some legwork. I suppose the loudspeaker system was what was actually used in lieu of full signalling. You suppose correctly, and the system is indeed still in use today, though as a back up - the preferred method being the use of the train radio.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2005 7:35:21 GMT
upminster depot is fully track circuited and does have motor points known as direct drive there is no interlocking so the control tower signalman/shunter can set up a conflicting move
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2005 10:10:02 GMT
upminster depot is fully track circuited and does have motor points known as direct drive there is no interlocking so the control tower signalman/shunter can set up a conflicting move Thanks - I knew that the points at Upminster were motorised but I didn't know if there was any interlocking available in the tower.
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Post by solidbond on Nov 22, 2005 21:27:53 GMT
However, there is a warning in the tower if only one end of a crossover is thrown - if the other end isn't thrown within a couple of seconds a bell will ring. The same warning will sound if a set of points is driven through by a train when they are set against the train. The points will move however, and will not be damaged in that situation.
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