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Post by londonboy on Jan 11, 2015 13:34:15 GMT
The new station has just opened
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Post by crusty54 on Jan 11, 2015 14:19:43 GMT
Think you mean the new entrance/ticket hall
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 14:40:55 GMT
Thought it wasn't opening until tomorrow, must of done early.
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Post by londonboy on Jan 11, 2015 15:05:54 GMT
Think you mean the new entrance/ticket hall Same difference! And the new lifts and escalators and passageways so might aswell say new station the only old part remaining open are the platforms! |
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Post by londonboy on Jan 11, 2015 15:06:42 GMT
Thought it wasn't opening until tomorrow, must of done early. Yes we got the message at around 13:30 to say it had opened |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 15:16:00 GMT
Where is the lift on the Northern line platforms?
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Post by North End on Jan 11, 2015 15:24:12 GMT
Thought it wasn't opening until tomorrow, must of done early. Yes we got the message at around 13:30 to say it had opened I think the plan was always to have an unadvertised opening at some stage over the weekend. I believe a mock evacuation was also carried out today after the opening. Virtually all of the old passageways will be brought back into use in the fullness of time - the original ticket hall escalators become the main access to the Central Line, whilst most of the low-level passageways will become the Central <> Northern interchange, and the space taken up by the old ticket hall will eventually be absorbed into the new ticket hall. I don't think the spiral staircase and original lift landings feature, however, so presumably these will become non-public areas. Look out for the remaining fragment of the CLR surface building disappearing too. |
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Post by will on Jan 11, 2015 16:21:55 GMT
does anyone have pictures ? - maybe a bit early
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 16:43:47 GMT
I was going to take some but as I was about to take some on my phone was told photography was illegal on the tube. So I just looked around and got on a train.
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Post by will on Jan 11, 2015 16:50:21 GMT
Fair enough, and I suppose with recent events in Paris they don't want any one taking photos  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 17:01:14 GMT
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Post by Chris W on Jan 11, 2015 17:16:54 GMT
Look out for the remaining fragment of the CLR surface building disappearing too. That'll be an interesting event to watch.... there are numerous portacabins perched on top of it curently  I was going to take some but as I was about to take some on my phone was told photography was illegal on the tube. A question... did the member of staff you encountered immediately call the Police ?? Lets be honest, we all would if someone was doing something illegal / criminalIf not (as I suspect will be the case) then this just proves that they were lying   As always, my recommendation is that you politely speak to the station supervisor prior to taking photos: www.districtdave.co.uk/html/advice.html |
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Post by wimblephil on Jan 11, 2015 18:00:15 GMT
It's quite nice and spacious, and it's nice to have a set of escalators up to the street from the ticket hall, along with the set from (just above) platform level to the ticket hall.
It's a shame that the subway entrances are closed now and there are no exits on the north side of Oxford Street as it leaves a LOT more people wishing to cross the roads above, which one would presume will only be worse during peak hours. Something that was going to be inevitable for a period though I guess.
There was the odd confused punter when faced with a block to their usual exit, but most were strolling through like there was nothing different! I suppose to a certain amount it could well have been a first use of the station so they may well have known no difference! The real interesting thing to see will be come tomorrow when a lot of the regulars come to alight! I 'spect there may be a few counter-flow clashes for a little while!
Tomorrow I imagine there'll be a lot of commuters in their usual spot down one end of the train, but come Tuesday they'll suddenly all be at t'other!
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Jan 11, 2015 18:41:47 GMT
I was going to take some but as I was about to take some on my phone was told photography was illegal on the tube. So I just looked around and got on a train. I don't take pictures on the tube myself very often if at all but there's lots on here that do and to those I'd say thew following: Print out a copy of the terms and conditions of using a camera on the Underground (pertinently paragraph 4.5 in the link provided by another above) and carry it with you. Alternatively, save the web page showing the same information on your phone. That way, if you are hauled up for taking a photo, you have factual evidence from your accuser's superiors that he or she is talking b0ll0cks and you can carry on taking the pictures you want provided you're not using a flash or tripod. Don't let the ill-informed brow-beat you. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Jan 11, 2015 19:39:23 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Jan 12, 2015 10:12:49 GMT
Thanks for that - they're my photos.  Managed to take them without any hassle although I did wonder at one point whether a chap in the control room was going to tell me off. Quite why anyone would be surprised to see people taking snaps of a brand new station when it opens I don't know. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2015 10:25:46 GMT
I'd be very interested in some kind of image that shows how the new layout connects to the platforms, streets etc. compared to the old layout. I have found some images showing the new situation ( this one is not bad) but I find it hard to recognise the old situation in there as it doesn't show the old ticket hall for instance. |
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Post by snoggle on Jan 12, 2015 10:47:29 GMT
I'd be very interested in some kind of image that shows how the new layout connects to the platforms, streets etc. compared to the old layout. I have found some images showing the new situation ( this one is not bad) but I find it hard to recognise the old situation in there as it doesn't show the old ticket hall for instance. This planning brief has some drawings at the end that show the layout, including Crossrail, on three different levels. You can sort of see where the old ticket hall is in relation to the new works. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2015 11:08:36 GMT
I'd be very interested in some kind of image that shows how the new layout connects to the platforms, streets etc. compared to the old layout. I have found some images showing the new situation ( this one is not bad) but I find it hard to recognise the old situation in there as it doesn't show the old ticket hall for instance. This planning brief has some drawings at the end that show the layout, including Crossrail, on three different levels. You can sort of see where the old ticket hall is in relation to the new works. Brilliant, very helpful thanks! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 19:39:00 GMT
I'd be very interested in some kind of image that shows how the new layout connects to the platforms, streets etc. compared to the old layout. I have found some images showing the new situation ( this one is not bad) but I find it hard to recognise the old situation in there as it doesn't show the old ticket hall for instance. There are some images of that available in the link below: www.flickr.com/photos/128894532@N02/ |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 21:35:47 GMT
It looks so much different to the old cramped station.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 21:39:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 22:24:49 GMT
I'd be very interested in some kind of image that shows how the new layout connects to the platforms, streets etc. compared to the old layout. I have found some images showing the new situation ( this one is not bad) but I find it hard to recognise the old situation in there as it doesn't show the old ticket hall for instance. This planning brief has some drawings at the end that show the layout, including Crossrail, on three different levels. You can sort of see where the old ticket hall is in relation to the new works. Does anyone know how much of the Crossrail 2 infrastructure has been implemented into the actual construction? They're shown on the plans but obviously you don't want to spend money on something that isn't confirm yet, but also you don't want to cause major disruption again if it goes ahead in x years time? |
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Post by snoggle on Jan 16, 2015 1:05:47 GMT
This planning brief has some drawings at the end that show the layout, including Crossrail, on three different levels. You can sort of see where the old ticket hall is in relation to the new works. Does anyone know how much of the Crossrail 2 infrastructure has been implemented into the actual construction? They're shown on the plans but obviously you don't want to spend money on something that isn't confirm yet, but also you don't want to cause major disruption again if it goes ahead in x years time? Short answer - don't know. Speculating wildly there might be some elements of the design of tunnels and structures at TCR that makes some provision for where CR2 tunnels might be. TfL have said that the southern entrance of the CR2 TCR station will be on Shaftesbury Avenue which shows how long it will be. The safeguarding documents for CR2 show buildings on the north side of Oxford Street near Rathbone Place potentially being affected by CR2. |
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Post by malcolmffc on Jan 16, 2015 7:22:14 GMT
And is any provision being made at Victoria for a CR2 station during the current rebuild? (I am sure nothing was done at Kings X which is fair enough...)
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Post by snoggle on Jan 16, 2015 9:28:41 GMT
And is any provision being made at Victoria for a CR2 station during the current rebuild? (I am sure nothing was done at Kings X which is fair enough...) Doubtful as I'd be surprised if there was any engineering detail yet about how the station will work. The safeguarding drawings show Victoria Coach Station, all of Victoria NR station, the bus station plus land to the north side of Buckingham Palace Road / Grosvenor Gardens as being of interest. This suggests the station may be very large and may require extra land take to facilitate construction. I'd be surprised if much of the CR2 station was underneath the LU station - I'd expect it to be elsewhere at Victoria and merely connected to the tube station. I'd also guess that the western ticket hall will be at or near VCS. |
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Post by abe on Jan 16, 2015 19:03:57 GMT
There are a few stub ends of tunnels that will facilitate the construction of connections to the CR2 platforms as and when it is built. In the planning brief (link by snoggle, above), the last two pages show CR2 platforms and proposed connections in faint dotted lines, running north/south through the middle of the station, including the stubs. Presumably this will allow easy access from both the Dean Street (western) and St Giles Circus (eastern) ticket halls.
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Post by Chris W on Jan 17, 2015 20:00:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 20:10:37 GMT
I notice that Waterloo only has some of its interchange options shown, if that counts? |
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Post by John Tuthill on Jan 17, 2015 20:16:55 GMT
I notice that Waterloo only has some of its interchange options shown, if that counts? Kennington not shown as an interchange? |
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Managed to take them without any hassle although I did wonder at one point whether a chap in the control room was going to tell me off. Quite why anyone would be surprised to see people taking snaps of a brand new station when it opens I don't know.
