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Post by jacks on Mar 25, 2016 1:07:30 GMT
This evening around 23:45 I was on a train to Edgware that was pulling into the usual northbound platform at Golders Green. On the approach to the station I noticed another train by the side of us, in passenger service, heading into the middle platform where it terminated, only the train I was on was travelling faster and berthed in the platform first.
Was just curious how common or rare an instance like this is and looking for a bit more insight possibly as I found it odd to 'overtake' the train in front so to speak, and to get so close to it (the train behind was advertised as 13 minutes away too!)
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Post by North End on Mar 25, 2016 1:53:10 GMT
This evening around 23:45 I was on a train to Edgware that was pulling into the usual northbound platform at Golders Green. On the approach to the station I noticed another train by the side of us, in passenger service, heading into the middle platform where it terminated, only the train I was on was travelling faster and berthed in the platform first. Was just curious how common or rare an instance like this is and looking for a bit more insight possibly as I found it odd to 'overtake' the train in front so to speak, and to get so close to it (the train behind was advertised as 13 minutes away too!) The train you overtook was terminated short at Golders Green due to late running, but was unable to immediately access the middle platform as there was another train there going out of service to depot. Therefore the northbound loop was used to hold the second train until the middle became available, avoiding holding up the Edgware train. Golders Green retains a pretty flexible track layout, which proves its worth when the service is disrupted - like it was this afternoon and evening due to the rain and a certain signalling system which can't cope with it. |
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Post by melikepie on Mar 25, 2016 22:10:11 GMT
Different line but there have been occaisions in the evening when I have got a train heading to Cockfosters. It has pulled into the middle platform at Arnos Grove. At least 2 other Cockfosters trains have gone through the outer platform before the one I was on continued as well.
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Post by superteacher on Apr 12, 2016 21:01:32 GMT
Happens at Earls Court on the District line quite a bit. In fact, some trains are timetabled to arrive before another train, then leave after it. The off peak trains from Wimbledon to Tower Hill often arrive in the platform and wait for 2 - 3 minutes. In that time, a train to Upminster from Ealing or Richmond arrives then promptly leaves.
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 12, 2016 22:12:34 GMT
Happens at Earls Court on the District line quite a bit. In fact, some trains are timetabled to arrive before another train, then leave after it. The off peak trains from Wimbledon to Tower Hill often arrive in the platform and wait for 2 - 3 minutes. In that time, a train to Upminster from Ealing or Richmond arrives then promptly leaves. perhaps if they did not wait here then there would be greater capacity on the District Line, which would result in more trains running! Simon |
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Post by countryman on Apr 13, 2016 7:47:57 GMT
Happens at Earls Court on the District line quite a bit. In fact, some trains are timetabled to arrive before another train, then leave after it. The off peak trains from Wimbledon to Tower Hill often arrive in the platform and wait for 2 - 3 minutes. In that time, a train to Upminster from Ealing or Richmond arrives then promptly leaves. perhaps if they did not wait here then there would be greater capacity on the District Line, which would result in more trains running! Simon Do the trains wait at Earl's Court because trains to HSK have a path clash with Circle trains to HSK, and trains to Victoria and beyond have to fit in with Circle trains in both directions due to the flat crossing, or is it due to driver change? |
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Post by jimini on Apr 13, 2016 8:38:32 GMT
Happens on the central line too at Leytonstone w/b. You can have quite the little race there before the two tracks merge!
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 13, 2016 9:47:46 GMT
Do the trains wait at Earl's Court because trains to HSK have a path clash with Circle trains to HSK, and trains to Victoria and beyond have to fit in with Circle trains in both directions due to the flat crossing, or is it due to driver change? Could be driver change, but unlikely to be pathing at HSK since in the example given neither train is going there. I would guess it is a combination of: 1. the need for the Upminster train to arrive at the Minories triangle at the right time to fit in with trains using the other two sides of the triangle (in particular to fit in between H&C services east thereof, but not forgetting the Circles crossing its path just before) 2. the Tower Hill train not arriving there before the bay platform is free - which would mean it having to wait on the running line and block everything behind it. I would guess that on occasion a TH train might be given priority to mop up short distance passengers and ensure that the passengers going further are not crowded out of the only one of the two trains that they can use. |
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