New western entrance at Stratford station

[snoggle]

Not anything original by me but ianvisits has a recent article setting out details for a new Western entrance to be built at Stratford. It will allow faster access from the Carpenters Estate area. The new entrance will be at Jubilee Line platform level and will be created out of the LU car park area.

www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2017/01/20/new-entrance-proposed-for-stratford-tube-station/

It will make Stratford the station with the most entrances / exits outside of Zone 1 on the Underground (can't think of anywhere else in Z29 that has 4 entrances).

[Chris M]

That depends on how you define "entrances", particularly for DLR stations that can get tricky.
Canary Wharf DLR has exits to the shopping malls either side at platform level, plus multiple stairs, escalators and lifts from the concourse level to each platform. If you count the concourse level as part of the station then that has four entrances - east and west to the shopping malls and north and south to the street making a total of 6, or 8 if you count the direct entrance to the street from the island platform lifts.

At stations like Gallions Reach and Deptford Bridge it's not easy to define where the concourse ends and public plaza begins, nor what counts as an entrance from one to the other.

[will]

It says the article that there will be new lifts to allow step free access throughout the station. I was under the impression that Stratford already had full step free access ?
Thanks 😊

[Chris M]

You can get to every platform step free, some some interchange routes are very circuitous (which can't be easy on people with limited mobility) so perhaps they are improving this?

[crusty54]

this entrance will be useful but they to replace/add to the stairs with escalators

[rsdworker]

there is 2 lifts each platform so i wonder what they will add lifts at? because station is fully step free

[Chris M]

Try getting from platform 11 to the Jubilee line step-free for example. You can do it, but it requires going down one lift, north to the end of that subway, west to the end of the second subway, south to the end of the third subway and into the ticket hall, up to the mezzanine level, west over the low-level DLR and then down to the Jubilee line level.
Remember that not everybody who needs step-free access is in a wheelchair and so will have to walk that long distance.

[stapler]

I think crusty means that escalator provision is very niggardly. The few escalators are provided for "up" passengers only from the main concourse, and none of the very busy staircases on the island platforms serving the NR and central lines have them, nor 9/10, and the volume and concentration of passengers is huge. At 100 million or so passengers pa, that is derisory

[DWS]

Jan 23, 2017 21:40:50 GMT snoggle said:

Not anything original by me but ianvisits has a recent article setting out details for a new Western entrance to be built at Stratford. It will allow faster access from the Carpenters Estate area. The new entrance will be at Jubilee Line platform level and will be created out of the LU car park area.

www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2017/01/20/new-entrance-proposed-for-stratford-tube-station/

It will make Stratford the station with the most entrances / exits outside of Zone 1 on the Underground (can't think of anywhere else in Z29 that has 4 entrances).

That will upset the LUL train crews who use this car park

[crusty54]

Hopefully this will mean the end of the stupid mini lift at the end of the western subway

[rsdworker]

Jan 25, 2017 13:34:28 GMT crusty54 said:

Hopefully this will mean the end of the stupid mini lift at the end of the western subway

well i dont know - i havent not looked the planning docs on council's website

[Dom K]

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[goldenarrow]

Thanks both to rincew1nd and Dom K. 

The funding package for the new station entrance has now been secured.

ianvisits writes on an article titled Funding secured for new entrance at Stratford tube station:

Newham council has agreed to contribute £1 million to the scheme, which is being funded from its Community Infrastructure Levy. The scheme will also see new lifts installed to allow step-free access throughout the station and the revitalisation and extension of a disused subway for better integration of rail, tube and DLR services.

Existing planning permission for the site requires TfL to begin enabling works on site by September 2019.

[Chris M]

The scheme will also see new lifts installed to allow step-free access throughout the station and the revitalisation and extension of a disused subway for better integration of rail, tube and DLR services.

Presumably this is lifts to the reopened subway as I believe all public parts of the station already have step-free access (albeit sometimes circuitously)?

[goldenarrow]

May 17, 2019 19:54:21 GMT Chris M said:

The scheme will also see new lifts installed to allow step-free access throughout the station and the revitalisation and extension of a disused subway for better integration of rail, tube and DLR services.

Presumably this is lifts to the reopened subway as I believe all public parts of the station already have step-free access (albeit sometimes circuitously)?

I'd guess that too since there are no documents in the planning application that suggest otherwise.

[spsmiler]

I thought that all previous subterranean passageways had already been reopened for the Olympics.

That is in addition to the brand new one at the eastern end of the station - which *very annoyingly* does not reach the station exit at the platform 3a end of the passageway. Instead to use this passageway I have to wait for a westbound Central line train and then walk through (the train) whilst going from platforms 3a to 3, before going downstairs to the passageway.

btw, does this make westbound Central line trains calling at this station into pedestrian passageways?

[Chris L]

May 17, 2019 23:17:25 GMT spsmiler said:

I thought that all previous subterranean passageways had already been reopened for the Olympics.

That is in addition to the brand new one at the eastern end of the station - which *very annoyingly* does not reach the station exit at the platform 3a end of the passageway. Instead to use this passageway I have to wait for a westbound Central line train and then walk through (the train) whilst going from platforms 3a to 3, before going downstairs to the passageway.

btw, does this make westbound Central line trains calling at this station into pedestrian passageways?

The passageway at the eastern end of the platforms was not brand new and is for an original station entrance where the taxi rank used to be. It was expanded for the Olympics and lifts added.

It is used by contractors to access/egress the station. 

It has a ramp so would be simple to get rid of the doors at the end of the passageway and improve step free access. Ticket gates would be more difficult.

[rsdworker]

only two lofts at eastern end - however this would restore oirginal entry when station had DLR bay platform - we walked all way to old subway - there was loft there - i think its demloshed when new concoruse opened

seen on map - www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations-and-destinations/stations-made-easy/stratford-london-station-plan

the eastern subway is shown - only lifts to 10 and 11 hoeever platform 12 isnt accessible by lifts directly but ramp is from platform 1 and 2

[Chris L]

May 18, 2019 14:23:58 GMT rsdworker said:

only two lofts at eastern end - however this would restore oirginal entry when station had DLR bay platform - we walked all way to old subway - there was loft there - i think its demloshed when new concoruse opened

seen on map - www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations-and-destinations/stations-made-easy/stratford-london-station-plan

the eastern subway is shown - only lifts to 10 and 11 hoeever platform 12 isnt accessible by lifts directly but ramp is from platform 1 and 2

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Platform 12 is rarely used nowadays.

There is a disused passage under platforms 3/5.