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Post by marcmck on Mar 28, 2018 7:06:12 GMT
I’ve long thought that Euston Square was the poor relation of the northern side of the circle, with dirty and unattractive tiling at platform level and dingy lighting.
I thought it would need to wait until the claimed HS2 upgrade but to my surprise I passed through yesterday and saw that the EB platform has had most of it’s tiling removed and a patch of smart new butchers tiling layed.
Not seen any info on this in any tfl reports - anyone know of what is planned? Timeframes?
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Post by rincew1nd on Mar 28, 2018 11:59:25 GMT
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Post by Chris M on Mar 28, 2018 12:43:44 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Mar 28, 2018 13:22:45 GMT
Oh no, not another plain white bathroom You said it. Whoever decided to turn LU platform walls into huge expanses of white boring tiles should be removed. Looks like we will also lose the old line coloured, old line names station name signs at Euston Square too. They're one of the last examples of that signage. I had better go and take a photo. |
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Post by Ben on Mar 28, 2018 15:56:54 GMT
Oh no, not another plain white bathroom No doubt a similar thing was said about the 'blue bathroom' look at the time! Does Euston Square still have the older bit of tiling here and there - with the orange(?) borders? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 17:18:08 GMT
Oh no, not another plain white bathroom You said it. Whoever decided to turn LU platform walls into huge expanses of white boring tiles should be removed. Looks like we will also lose the old line coloured, old line names station name signs at Euston Square too. They're one of the last examples of that signage. I had better go and take a photo. Oh fear not - we’ve all gone in the cull! It is one of the tattiest stations around but yes it will be losing the ‘Met Rly’ tiling on the staircases and probably the last old style frieze plates. Mind you I was very pleased with the modern version of the frieze at Holland Park - I suspect Euston Sq will get standard signs. |
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Post by crusty54 on Mar 28, 2018 18:31:38 GMT
You said it. Whoever decided to turn LU platform walls into huge expanses of white boring tiles should be removed. Looks like we will also lose the old line coloured, old line names station name signs at Euston Square too. They're one of the last examples of that signage. I had better go and take a photo. Oh fear not - we’ve all gone in the cull! It is one of the tattiest stations around but yes it will be losing the ‘Met Rly’ tiling on the staircases and probably the last old style frieze plates. Mind you I was very pleased with the modern version of the frieze at Holland Park - I suspect Euston Sq will get standard signs. The friezes were down for replacement several years ago. It is a requirement for the way out patches to be incorporated to aid emergency evacuations. Unfortunately some bright spark had installed a number of cable runs too close to the existing panels for the corporate panels to fit. The refurbishment should make it possible. |
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Post by spsmiler on Mar 28, 2018 21:11:30 GMT
If there is a new frieze showing the station name it means that after many decades this station will start being served by the Hammersmith and City Line. The old one only shows Metropolitan and Circle lines.
Happily I have some photos of the old frieze, although as I have no idea when I filmed them it will take a while to find them (all my master images are stored in folders according to the date the photos were taken).
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Post by malcolmffc on Apr 1, 2018 6:09:13 GMT
Oh no, not another plain white bathroom You said it. Whoever decided to turn LU platform walls into huge expanses of white boring tiles should be removed. Looks like we will also lose the old line coloured, old line names station name signs at Euston Square too. They're one of the last examples of that signage. I had better go and take a photo. I’m all for preservation but Euston Square is a dump. Multiple styles of tiling, dim lighting and ancient signage. A refurb is fully justified. Have to say I’m surprised they’re doing this now though - I thought the reason the station had been allowed to decay was that they were planning to rebuild the whole Euston/Euston Sq complex as part of hs2 works? |
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Post by Chris M on Apr 1, 2018 9:12:44 GMT
I'm not against a refurbishment, but I want stations with individual character not bland white tiling everywhere. Character and refurbishment need not be mutually exclusive.
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Post by londoner on Apr 1, 2018 10:14:36 GMT
I think they should have had a scheme with local communities/ schools where a competition for a design to put on the tiles.
This would have been fantastic for the local people living in the area and also help to give some character to the station and it would not have cost much more money - the price of a few coloured tiles / set up the competition and a few meetings to discuss the winning idea?
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Post by croxleyn on Apr 1, 2018 12:29:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 18:04:38 GMT
I stopped and had a look on my way through today. Lots of half-removed purple and orange tiling with plastic taped over the missing bits. One platform wall in unfinished grey with a short section of white tiling. All friezes still in place at the moment. A few tantalising fragments of ancient posters where the adverts have been removed as well. p.s. While I was in the area, I also noticed the 1863 Kings Cross Met station building has been demolished, with just the section containing the emergency exit remaining. |
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Post by Ben on Apr 1, 2018 18:11:43 GMT
Hold, on. Forgive me if I've misunderstood, but are you saying some of the Victoria line style grey tiling is being renewed, whereas the (better quality) Met tiling involving the orange and purple is being removed?
Talk about backwards...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 18:24:20 GMT
It looks as if everything is being ripped out, despite the Met tiling being in pretty good shape. When I say "unfinished grey" I mean plain concrete render. White tiles going on over it.
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Post by Ben on Apr 1, 2018 19:02:44 GMT
Ahh, thank you for the clarification!
Yes, the station is down for the heady beauty of 'station design idiom 2015' - a timeless masterpiece that future generations will feel blessed to have around them, and who's enjoyment is undoubtedly the next chapter in the fine architectural design history of London's Transport. A worthy aesthetic successor to the likes of Green, Holden, Clark, etc....
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 2, 2018 19:23:54 GMT
If there is a new frieze showing the station name it means that after many decades this station will start being served by the Hammersmith and City Line. The old one only shows Metropolitan and Circle lines. Happily I have some photos of the old frieze, although as I have no idea when I filmed them it will take a while to find them (all my master images are stored in folders according to the date the photos were taken). Simon ...and here we are, a photograph! To my surprise I took this as long ago as 2015, but I only filmed on the platform. If I'd known that the station had some original Met Rly tiling I'd have filmed that too. I must admit, whilst white Victorian bathroom tiling is not the best at this station it really will be an improvement - as I find Victoria Line drab grey to be even less inviting. The top of the frieze has a Circle Line yellow strip but most of this is covered over by black cabling. Simon  EustonSquare-Stn-PltfmTiling-P1360034 |
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Post by jukes on Apr 2, 2018 21:29:12 GMT
There are plans afoot (or even 'atube' - sorry Bank Holiday humour -not) to link both of Euston Square's platforms by subway with the main Euston tube station (paid side) to at long last allow direct interchange with the Northern and Victoria lines and to enable exit onto the main station concourse. This is all being very actively worked up as part of the Euston HS2 master development plan. Up to now its alway been an aspiration or a rumour, but now its rapidly forming a major part of the joint DfT/HS2 Ltd/TfL/NR planning programme. I have seen some of the outline planning briefs and early designs - long long way to go yet of course before final design stage.
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Post by rsdworker on Apr 3, 2018 1:55:23 GMT
so that's means new step free route? interchanging between two stations would be good or still use on street to interchange for disabled access?
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Post by crusty54 on Apr 3, 2018 6:54:58 GMT
so that's means new step free route? interchanging between two stations would be good or still use on street to interchange for disabled access? There are already lifts on the westbound/ticket hall level. |
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Post by superteacher on Apr 3, 2018 8:30:26 GMT
Can we stick to discussing the platform decor in this thread please. If you want to talk about how the station may / may not change for HS2, please use a new thread. Ta very much. 
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Post by malcolmffc on Apr 4, 2018 7:13:35 GMT
so that's means new step free route? interchanging between two stations would be good or still use on street to interchange for disabled access? There are already lifts on the westbound/ticket hall level. And if you have the temerity to wish to travel eastbound? |
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Post by MoreToJack on Apr 4, 2018 7:39:07 GMT
After consulting with staff, travel two stops west, via Metropolitan Railway, to Baker Street before using the step-free interchange to the Outer Rail to travel back east.
Not ideal but better than nothing at all. Coming from the west, continue to KXSP and then double back.
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Post by malcolmffc on Apr 4, 2018 18:33:03 GMT
Will the 1970s friezes be going? Surprisingly they have survived in a few central stations, e.g. Piccadilly Circus and Bond Street
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Post by waysider on Apr 4, 2018 19:01:14 GMT
There are already lifts on the westbound/ticket hall level. And if you have the temerity to wish to travel eastbound? Say it quietly, but the lift that takes you from the westbound platform up to street level doesn't involve going through a ticket barrier ...fare dodgers dream exit |
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Post by Chris M on Apr 4, 2018 19:10:46 GMT
That's no longer the case - the gateline was extended to include the lift.
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Post by rincew1nd on Apr 4, 2018 19:21:33 GMT
Say it quietly, but the lift that takes you from the westbound platform up to street level doesn't involve going through a ticket barrier ...fare dodgers dream exit The best way to "say it quietly" is not to post it on an internet forum that anyone can read. |
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Post by crusty54 on Apr 4, 2018 20:31:39 GMT
Will the 1970s friezes be going? Surprisingly they have survived in a few central stations, e.g. Piccadilly Circus and Bond Street explained why earlier in the thread. |
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 5, 2018 10:09:11 GMT
Will the 1970s friezes be going? Surprisingly they have survived in a few central stations, e.g. Piccadilly Circus and Bond Street explained why earlier in the thread. Hopefully some of the frieze will end up in a museum, eg: LTM. Below is a still image from video, this shows what I assume to be the Metropolitan Railway tiling as discussed earlier in this thread. If my assumption is correct then maybe someone can tell me please if they date from 1863. Simon  |
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Post by goldenarrow on Apr 5, 2018 15:59:07 GMT
spsmiler , This blog article cites the LTM Photo Archives which show, "Scenes from 1934 with this distinctive tiling just rendered. It was possibly based on designs from the Metropolitan Railway." In a separate article it mentions the tilling in the ticket hall as dating back to the 70's. Edit: For some reason every time I try to quote spsmiler 's post above, my response vanishes, I can't seem to move the quotation bubble either.
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