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Post by snoggle on Aug 24, 2018 14:11:31 GMT
Ideally it would be better to reopen one of the older locked threads and just add this message to it. I'll leave that to the mods/admins to do. Slowly but surely the capacity expansion project at Victoria crawls towards completion. The extra escalators in the Vic Line ticket hall have opened for service today. I think this just leaves the step free access lifts between the Vic ticket hall level, District Line and down to the Vic Line to be finished off plus the inevitable snagging works as well as surface level works including rebuidling the pub that was demolished on the corner of Bressenden Place / Vic St. (Not referring here to the step free facilities at exist in the North Ticket Hall) |
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Post by class411 on Aug 25, 2018 8:33:35 GMT
When I used Victoria on Tuesday, someone, by the judicious use of some ink, had modified the "We're opening 3 new escalators" to read "We're opening 8 new escalators". It was done very convincingly, and for a second I wondered where they were putting them all.
The upgrade is looking quite good, but they cannot solve the perennial problem of the cross streams of passengers NR1-8 -> District versus NR9-19 -> Victoria.
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Post by snoggle on Aug 25, 2018 22:08:23 GMT
When I used Victoria on Tuesday, someone, by the judicious use of some ink, had modified the "We're opening 3 new escalators" to read "We're opening 8 new escalators". It was done very convincingly, and for a second I wondered where they were putting them all. The upgrade is looking quite good, but they cannot solve the perennial problem of the cross streams of passengers NR1-8 -> District versus NR9-19 -> Victoria. I'm waiting to see how LU will operate the station and see who will be faced with a long walk from the Vic Line platforms - those entering or those leaving. I understand the logic LU employ to try to string people out over an extended internal walking distance but it's bloomin' annoying if you just want to get somewhere fast. I suspect I will end up going via the District Line ticket hall if I'm going to be forced to walk half way to St James Park and back to just get to / from the Vic Line. LU do seem to be using a form of one way system in the AM system with exiting passengers forced out via the new Wilton Rd staircase. Entry is via the entrances off Victoria main line station. |
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Post by Chris M on Aug 26, 2018 7:20:12 GMT
LU do seem to be using a form of one way system in the AM system with exiting passengers forced out via the new Wilton Rd staircase. They really need a sign there with directions to the coach station. The poor CSA (I presume) at the top of the stairs when I was there a few weeks back was having to answer this over and over again. |
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Post by class411 on Aug 26, 2018 8:04:04 GMT
When I used Victoria on Tuesday, someone, by the judicious use of some ink, had modified the "We're opening 3 new escalators" to read "We're opening 8 new escalators". It was done very convincingly, and for a second I wondered where they were putting them all. The upgrade is looking quite good, but they cannot solve the perennial problem of the cross streams of passengers NR1-8 -> District versus NR9-19 -> Victoria. I'm waiting to see how LU will operate the station and see who will be faced with a long walk from the Vic Line platforms - those entering or those leaving. I understand the logic LU employ to try to string people out over an extended internal walking distance but it's bloomin' annoying if you just want to get somewhere fast. I suspect I will end up going via the District Line ticket hall if I'm going to be forced to walk half way to St James Park and back to just get to / from the Vic Line. LU do seem to be using a form of one way system in the AM system with exiting passengers forced out via the new Wilton Rd staircase. Entry is via the entrances off Victoria main line station. Presumably they would make people exiting take the longer route to elongate the pulses that result from each arrival. Although they didn't have the sense to do that at Hammersmith and, of course, many people ignored the signage indicating they should access the platform via the long route as the wanted to catch their trains! What made it doubly daft (and seriously affected my opinion of the intelligence of those responsible for the station design) was that it also meant that the first set of stairs that most passengers encountered on the H&C side had a little (usually ignored) 'no entry' sign as they were supposed to continue past them, fighting with the people who had defied the 'take the long route to enter' signage, to another set of stairs at the end of the platform. After about five years of this chaos the giant brains at LU finally cottoned on and swapped the ingress/egress routes to the more sensible layout - and at the same times erected barriers to force people to use the indicated route, just as they became much less needed. |
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Post by snoggle on Aug 26, 2018 19:35:09 GMT
LU do seem to be using a form of one way system in the AM system with exiting passengers forced out via the new Wilton Rd staircase. They really need a sign there with directions to the coach station. The poor CSA (I presume) at the top of the stairs when I was there a few weeks back was having to answer this over and over again. For such a popular building it is not terribly well sign posted. This is doubly odd given TfL run it and Westminster City Council can hardly be unaware of the pedestrian flows along Buck Palace Road. |
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Post by goldenarrow on Aug 26, 2018 20:41:18 GMT
They really need a sign there with directions to the coach station. The poor CSA (I presume) at the top of the stairs when I was there a few weeks back was having to answer this over and over again. For such a popular building it is not terribly well sign posted. This is doubly odd given TfL run it and Westminster City Council can hardly be unaware of the pedestrian flows along Buck Palace Road. I don’t hold out too much for cooperation between TfL (aka the Mayor of London) and the Slytherin of London Borough Councils. |
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Post by goldenarrow on Sept 7, 2018 21:06:29 GMT
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Post by malcolmffc on Sept 11, 2018 7:40:16 GMT
Are the lifts to/from the District & Circle lines in service yet?
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Post by goldenarrow on Oct 20, 2018 8:51:58 GMT
Are the lifts to/from the District & Circle lines in service yet? They certainly are now... |
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Post by dmncf on Oct 21, 2018 9:27:17 GMT
The lift to the westbound District and Circle platform was in service when I was at Victoria last Thursday, as were lifts from the National Rail station to the main LU ticket hall. However the lift to the eastbound District and Circle line platform was not yet in service. I have not visited since to see if it is now in service.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 21, 2018 11:05:54 GMT
However the lift to the eastbound District and Circle line platform was not yet in service. I have not visited since to see if it is now in service. Came into use Friday afternoon/evening |
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Post by goldenarrow on Oct 29, 2018 21:00:45 GMT
Geoff Marshall has had a saunter round the new lifts saving me the bother of uploading the photos I had taken earlier this morning.
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Post by rincew1nd on Oct 29, 2018 21:06:52 GMT
I'd be interested in seeing your pictures, different people look at things from different angles and it's quite possible that you will have captured details overlooked by Mr Marshall.
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Post by tjw on Oct 31, 2018 8:31:15 GMT
Looking at the signs it is all a bit confusing... I can't even begin to work out how to explain to my wheelchair bound friend how to navigate the station. The bus from outside the station seems a simple and quicker option.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 12:24:27 GMT
Had the dubious pleasure of trekking through the new tunnels last weekend - at least they did something to improve the access I guess?
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Post by sawb on Nov 2, 2018 15:35:54 GMT
Does anyone know whether the Platform Train Interface (PTI) for the sub surface is classed as step free please, or does it require a ramp? Travelling through Victoria on 21st December, possibly still in a wheelchair from a dislocated knee I sustained earlier this year. I notice that the symbol for Victoria on this map has yet to be updated: content.tfl.gov.uk/step-free-tube-guide-map.pdf |
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Post by goldenarrow on Nov 2, 2018 16:03:28 GMT
Does anyone know whether the Platform Train Interface (PTI) for the sub surface is classed as step free please, or does it require a ramp? Travelling through Victoria on 21st December, possibly still in a wheelchair from a dislocated knee I sustained earlier this year. I notice that the symbol for Victoria on this map has yet to be updated: content.tfl.gov.uk/step-free-tube-guide-map.pdfHaving just asked on my way through, the Circle and District line platforms will require a boarding ramp for your journey in December. Standard procedure for when starting your journey speaking to a member of staff at the start of your journey to arrange for the boarding ramp to be available at the time(s) you are travelling. |
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Post by sawb on Nov 2, 2018 17:51:51 GMT
Thank you
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 0:59:17 GMT
Why does the DOT Matrix at Victoria for the Victoria Line have the announcements and not on the Circle or District Line platforms?
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Post by toby on Nov 4, 2018 10:35:26 GMT
Those lines aren't running this weekend. Even where they were, Wood Lane's screen had no information.
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Post by MoreToJack on Nov 4, 2018 11:57:09 GMT
Those lines aren't running this weekend. Even where they were, Wood Lane's screen had no information. No SSR service through Victoria, but the C&H through Wood Lane is working. The exact reasons for the information on the Wood Lane DMIs being ropey has been covered multiple times, but this is not the right thread for that. |
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Post by malcolmffc on Nov 26, 2018 7:13:09 GMT
Why hasn’t a platform hump been built on the D&C ppatforms rather than relying on a ramp? Surely a fairly minor piece of work compared to the 7 years of incredibly complex civil engineering that’s been going on there?
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Post by Chris M on Nov 26, 2018 11:47:10 GMT
Platform humps are most useful if they are at the same place on every platform. Perhaps there is some engineering reason why a hump cannot be installed at that location on that platform (curvature would be first guess)?
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Post by goldenarrow on Nov 26, 2018 13:49:48 GMT
Are there any humps on SSR platforms at all?
Can only think of deep level lines having them as the bays are in separate locations as opposed to the two centre cars on the S stocks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 15:03:00 GMT
There are humps at Hammersmith (District line) for example, with most platforms with S stock is they aren’t straight therefore there will be a gap.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 26, 2018 19:10:11 GMT
The step-free access at Metropolitan line stations poster in the lift to platform 2 at Farringdon mentions the level access in the centre of the platform at a few stations - I think Pinner and Amersham were among them but I'm not certain.
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Post by patrickb on Nov 26, 2018 23:28:50 GMT
Afaik, it's usually the center two cars, 4th and 5th. On platforms, there's a slight adjustment to the platform edge to improve accessibility.
I believe that Ealing Broadway has humps too for the District. I wonder if humps are a preference among straight platforms only.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 27, 2018 3:11:49 GMT
Afaik, it's usually the center two cars, 4th and 5th. On platforms, there's a slight adjustment to the platform edge to improve accessibility. I believe that Ealing Broadway has humps too for the District. I wonder if humps are a preference among straight platforms only. On S7 Stock the wheelchair bays are in the MS cars (24xxx) which could be 3rd and 4th or 4th and 5th, depending which was round it happens to be. There are humps or platform nosing stone adjustments just for the centre cars at quite a number of stations, some more obvious (Hammersmith, Ealing Broadway) although some don’t really cover the three car length required (3/4/5). |
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