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Post by jimbo on Jul 17, 2024 19:58:25 GMT
The first train entered service way back in November 2023! So if the second train arrives in September, that will be ten months. That makes the FoI forecast of no more new trains this financial year, to March 2025, quite believable.
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Post by ijmad on Jul 25, 2024 21:40:15 GMT
At that rate they should have the rest of the fleet finished by Christmas.
2093.
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Post by starlight73 on Jul 26, 2024 9:21:09 GMT
On Saturday a member of the CLIP team posted on Facebook 'Central Line Past & Present' Group the train has been through software updates and "will be … off to Ealing for routine brake testing."I saw a 92 stock in Ealing Common yesterday at about 12:30, parked on “the alps” (the sidings close to the transport museum depot). I was on a train and my slow reaction time meant I only got a photo of its roof! Is this the first CLIP train? There was an unusual train in the timetable with timetable ID 776 and leading car ID 6246, which I thought was the 92 stock, but I suspect that’s not right.
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Post by xtmw on Jul 26, 2024 11:10:33 GMT
I think the CLIP train is currently sitting in Hainault depot for further works.
A 92 stock was at the South Ealing test track, not long ago. That might have been the one you saw.
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Post by gefw on Aug 7, 2024 7:20:11 GMT
Can anyone contribute an update regarding the proving of the 1st train + the next trains?
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Post by burkitt on Aug 7, 2024 9:01:01 GMT
I was on the visit to the CLIP project at Acton organised by TechSoc last week. Testing of the first completed train is continuing. This is actually known as Train 3, with Train 1 having had only the replacement traction system, and Train 2 only the new passenger info systems, as trial runs. Train 3 is the first with everything fitted. They were working on Train 6 during the visit, and aiming for an eventual 50 day turnaround time.
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Post by xtmw on Aug 7, 2024 15:03:46 GMT
Further info for anyone interested Train 1 & 2 were prototypes, so were stripped down and being built into the 'proper thing' Train 3 is heading for the South Ealing test track (Currently stabled in Northfields depot) Train 4 should be ready soon No word on train 5 yet Train 6 as you said, currently in the works
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Post by gefw on Aug 7, 2024 16:45:56 GMT
Thanks for update Sounds like Acton works is full (5 trains) which are in various stages of progress but not in "full flow" yet - not sure if this is pending design sign off, staffing levels or materials?
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Post by aslefshrugged on Aug 13, 2024 3:24:19 GMT
Yesterday I was told that the CLIP train is currently stuck in Ruislip depot and can only move in Restricted Manual (15kph). I have no odea how reliable that information is as mess rooms are notorious for rumour and gossip
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 13, 2024 7:07:21 GMT
CLIP Train 3 91001+91201 has been on the South Ealing test track for the past few days, stabling at Northfields and Ealing Common
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gefw
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Post by gefw on Aug 20, 2024 7:28:32 GMT
I hope the testing was successful - any idea what it was about? Rather an expected time in the program to do the Brake performance Testing. Noting that I don't think South Ealing is Central Line ATP or ATO equipped
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Post by miff on Aug 20, 2024 12:18:15 GMT
Speculating here but previous testing might've identified tweaks necessary to the software which, once done, needs to be tested to prove performance is as predicted. This wouldn't necessarily need ATP or ATO - just controlled & measurable brake applications under the right conditions. I may be totally off-beam but if so hopefully some more knowledgeable person might want to contribute.
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Post by xtmw on Aug 20, 2024 15:45:00 GMT
I hope the testing was successful - any idea what it was about? From what I've heard the CLIP train has been undergoing brake testing at the South Ealing test track Most likely fitted with tripcocks then they'll be removed once it's back on the Central
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Post by vincenture on Aug 23, 2024 11:11:51 GMT
CLIP Train 3 91001+91201 has been on the South Ealing test track for the past few days, stabling at Northfields and Ealing Common Haven’t been following properly but is this the exact set seen in revenue previously between North Acton and West Ruislip?
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Post by goldenarrow on Aug 23, 2024 13:32:40 GMT
Yes, it is.
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Post by xtmw on Aug 23, 2024 20:44:34 GMT
It's worth noting only one CLIP train is in service at the moment
As I said in late March, the next CLIP train is expected to enter service in December
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Post by gefw on Aug 28, 2024 14:03:30 GMT
Does anyone have an update on the plan and whether they have indeed had to start a separate work stream for essential heavy maintenance/overhaul works on "standard" 92 stock so they can remain in service pending their turn in the CLIP queue to Acton. With regards progress on the CLIP trains - I hope by now the first (train 3) has completed testing (at South Ealing) and has returned to clocking up in service/proving mileage. It seems the next completed fully refurbished train is due to be available for service in Dec 2024.
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Post by notverydeep on Sept 3, 2024 12:02:46 GMT
One of the key reasons for the long gap between the first and second CLIP trains going into service is that there is a separate Door Overhaul and Programme lift project ongoing in 2024 into 2025. This programme had to be separated from CLIP, because the pandemic delays to the programme would have led to the (non-CLIP) trains running out of their 'certification' had the two work elements remained integrated as had previously been planned.
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Post by jimbo on Sept 3, 2024 12:40:18 GMT
I suppose that is what the second line of my quote from the TfL Commissioner’s report - July 2024 in my post of 17 July was all about! Two lines about overhaul of Central Line trains, but about two different programmes!
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 4, 2024 16:18:51 GMT
still no testing on the Hainault - Woodford route?
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