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Post by metrider21 on Jan 3, 2022 20:29:16 GMT
Goodbye to the LT Museum depot then... "It is currently occupied by operational tenants and is home to London Transport Museum (LTM) storage facility.
The operational buildings will be vacated prior to disposal however a replacement storage facility for the LTM will need to be provided as part of the development proposals."
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Post by miff on Jan 3, 2022 20:36:38 GMT
The blurb includes “a replacement storage facility for the LTM will need to be provided as part of the development proposals”, but this doesn’t sound like good news for the museum- e.g. would a LUL rail connection be guaranteed?
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Post by metrider21 on Jan 3, 2022 20:52:51 GMT
The blurb includes “a replacement storage facility for the LTM will need to be provided as part of the development proposals”, but this doesn’t sound like good news for the museum- e.g. would a LUL rail connection be guaranteed? Cannot think of site with another rail link that LU own, and that would be suitable. Unless they squeeze it into Acton works? But not good news either way. |
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Post by alpinejohn on Jan 5, 2022 11:08:15 GMT
Is that thread title somewhat misleading?
I am not sure why TFL would really want to create housing on this site. I rather suspect that it is actually the tussle between the Mayor, Whitehall and of course influential construction consortia who are really behind this?
The Acton Museum site is substantially more than storage - currently it provides public access - albeit on limited occasions, but it still is a real museum if you want to use the expression. This announcement suggests that function is being abandoned over night, meaning the contents can in future simply be crated up and sent for storage wherever is super cheap - which probably means somewhere miles outside London where there is no real prospect of easy public access for Londoners.
Brilliant - why stop there? Knock down the Royal Albert Hall - dump the rubble in a quarry in Buckinghamshire and let people visit it there... That should free up plenty of space for more multi million pound apartments and of course the two "affordable flats" needed for planning permission and of course ensure loads of profit and nighthoods for the developers.
This idea stinks.
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Post by Tom on Jan 5, 2022 14:29:27 GMT
I don't think TfL particularly do, but it is a Mayoral priority - indeed, some of the business case for the Piccadilly line resignalling was tied to the amount of capacity which would be created and how that acted as an enabler for more housing along the line.
There are, of course, issues surrounding the redevelopment of the Bollo Lane sites such as where the functions currently using that land will be displaced to.
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Post by Chris L on Jan 5, 2022 14:53:51 GMT
Is that thread title somewhat misleading? I am not sure why TFL would really want to create housing on this site. I rather suspect that it is actually the tussle between the Mayor, Whitehall and of course influential construction consortia who are really behind this? The Acton Museum site is substantially more than storage - currently it provides public access - albeit on limited occasions, but it still is a real museum if you want to use the expression. This announcement suggests that function is being abandoned over night, meaning the contents can in future simply be crated up and sent for storage wherever is super cheap - which probably means somewhere miles outside London where there is no real prospect of easy public access for Londoners. Brilliant - why stop there? Knock down the Royal Albert Hall - dump the rubble in a quarry in Buckinghamshire and let people visit it there... That should free up plenty of space for more multi million pound apartments and of course the two "affordable flats" needed for planning permission and of course ensure loads of profit and nighthoods for the developers. This idea stinks. TfL has a legal requirement to preserve historical items. The wording of the documents is ambiguous. A previous version suggested that the alternative could be within the development. The Depot is already overloaded and alternative space will be necessary. This has to be temperature controlled. The need for a rail link needs to be reviewed. Alternative storage for working preserved units may be possible elsewhere. |
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Post by castlebar on Jan 5, 2022 15:02:36 GMT
The local council will have some say as to what happens on the site.
For some councils, "affordable housing" seems to mean houses under £1,000,000
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jan 6, 2022 8:27:12 GMT
Brilliant - why stop there? Knock down the Royal Albert Hall - dump the rubble in a quarry in Buckinghamshire and let people visit it there... That should free up plenty of space for more multi million pound apartments and of course the two "affordable flats" needed for planning permission and of course ensure loads of profit and nighthoods for the developers. This idea stinks. Royal Albert Hall is Grade I Listed, opened in 1871 and before Covid was one of London's major concert venues Acton Town depot is not listed, opened in 1999 and is only open three times a year or for pre-booked guided tours Interestingly Acton Town station and Ealing Common station are both Grade II Listed |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Jan 6, 2022 8:41:56 GMT
The local council will have some say as to what happens on the site. For some councils, "affordable housing" seems to mean houses under £1,000,000 Affordable rent is usually 80% of market, not sure what "affordable" to buy means but maybe about the same (  ) According to Foxton's the average property price in South Acton ward last year was £528,858, lower than average for the whole of the London Borough of Ealing £630,350 Looking at the development around North Acton station I get the impression that Ealing Council would be more than happy to grant planning permission - in eager anticipation of all the extra council tax rolling in |
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Post by Tom on Jan 6, 2022 17:30:58 GMT
Acton Town depot is not listed, opened in 1999 and is only open three times a year or for pre-booked guided tours I believe the building is slightly older, from memory it was home to the Depot Engineering Support Unit before the Museum began using it. You are, however, quite correct about it not being listed (and some would say devoid of any architectural merit). |
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