Fares increase 2021

[stapler]

Is there anywhere the digital single sheet of A4 that tells you which fares are going up and what the new price will e for standard journeys after the increase? Mr Googlr, and even more so Mr Bing, have not enabled me to find it.
Apologies if this is just the whinge of a lapsed IT user...

[class411]

How can one search engine fail to find a specific result ‘even more’ than another?

[brigham]

Dec 15, 2020 8:36:44 GMT class411 said:

How can one search engine fail to find a specific result ‘even more’ than another?

If you run over a dead pheasant with your car, is the pheasant 'more dead'?

[Chris L]

Safe to say if it's not on tfl.gov.uk the fare increases have not been announced in detail

[londoner]

Dec 15, 2020 8:36:44 GMT class411 said:

How can one search engine fail to find a specific result ‘even more’ than another?

It depends on how each website domain is indexed and the algorithms used to deliver what the AI believes is the most relevant results that the user would want. 

You can also produce more relevant search results using various syntax. For example, you can search for pdf's in google using the following syntax before the search term:

filetype:pdf

Hence if you wanted to find a pdf document of TfL fares, you could try:

filetype:pdf tfl fares

Some search engines have more syntax (and therefore more capability to produce relevant results) than others.

[class411]

Dec 16, 2020 6:40:51 GMT londoner said:

Dec 15, 2020 8:36:44 GMT class411 said:

How can one search engine fail to find a specific result ‘even more’ than another?

It depends on how each website domain is indexed and the algorithms used to deliver what the AI believes is the most relevant results that the user would want. 

You can also produce more relevant search results using various syntax. For example, you can search for pdf's in google using the following syntax before the search term:

filetype:pdf

Hence if you wanted to find a pdf document of TfL fares, you could try:

filetype:pdf tfl fares

Some search engines have more syntax (and therefore more capability to produce relevant results) than others.

This is all true, but it doesn't explain how one search engine can fail to find a specific result more than another.

If you ask for results with information about X, then one search engine can produce different results to another, and possibly get a lot closer to what you want, even though neither produce the precise information you want.

But if you want a specific page, then any engine either fails or succeeds. One cannot fail more than another.

[Chris L]

The national rail fares increase has been delayed until March but with an average 2.5% rise.

[Deleted]

Anyone else have trouble with the caps and travelcard price page on the TFL site? I’m trying to find the cap price for Z 1 to 4 with a disabled persons railcard but all of the zone combinations give me an error.

[Dstock7080]

Jan 10, 2021 14:25:24 GMT @spinba11 said:

Anyone else have trouble with the caps and travelcard price page on the TFL site? I’m trying to find the cap price for Z 1 to 4 with a disabled persons railcard but all of the zone combinations give me an error.

[vincenture]

Are all of these cap fares?

[Chris L]

Jan 11, 2021 2:43:06 GMT vincenture said:

Are all of these cap fares?

That's what the heading says.

[humbug]

Why does the above attachment show 02 Jan 2020?

[Dstock7080]

Jan 11, 2021 14:02:19 GMT humbug said:

Why does the above attachment show 02 Jan 2020?

Those are the current fares in operation.

[vincenture]

Jan 11, 2021 8:42:41 GMT Chris L said:

Jan 11, 2021 2:43:06 GMT vincenture said:

Are all of these cap fares?

That's what the heading says.

Thank you, just wanted to confirm as I was confused at the table headings

[Dstock7080]

Details of TfL fares package announced

The Mayor has already confirmed fares will rise by RPI+1 (2.6 per cent) overall across all services as a condition of the emergency TfL funding deal made with the Government, but Sadiq has kept some single pay as you go Tube, DLR, London Overground and TfL rail fares unchanged.
Bus and tram ‘Hopper’ fare - introduced by the Mayor and allowing unlimited journeys within an hour - will increase by just 5p to £1.55, the smallest increase possible and keeping the fare one of the best value in the country.
This rise –from 1 March 2021 – follows five years of frozen TfL fares set by the Mayor.
All current concessions, including free travel for young people under the age of 18, will also remain in place.​​​​​​​
Details announced as TfL publishes plan setting out the level of Government funding required to place its finances on a sustainable footing, after fare income was decimated by the pandemic.

[stapler]

Jan 15, 2021 12:14:10 GMT Dstock7080 said:

Details of TfL fares package announced

The Mayor has already confirmed fares will rise by RPI+1 (2.6 per cent) overall across all services as a condition of the emergency TfL funding deal made with the Government, but Sadiq has kept some single pay as you go Tube, DLR, London Overground and TfL rail fares unchanged.
Bus and tram ‘Hopper’ fare - introduced by the Mayor and allowing unlimited journeys within an hour - will increase by just 5p to £1.55, the smallest increase possible and keeping the fare one of the best value in the country.
This rise –from 1 March 2021 – follows five years of frozen TfL fares set by the Mayor.
All current concessions, including free travel for young people under the age of 18, will also remain in place.​​​​​​​
Details announced as TfL publishes plan setting out the level of Government funding required to place its finances on a sustainable footing, after fare income was decimated by the pandemic.

If only TFL had suffered a farebox reduction of only 10% ("decimated")........

[croxleyn]

Diamond Geezer has done a detailed study on his blog site diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/2021/01/fares-2021.html

[spsmiler]

The off-peak fares avoiding zone 1 will cost £1.50, £1.60 or £1.70 depending on how many zones are passed through. That means my trips to West Croydon are going to go up - but its still a bargain compared to what it would cost if I went to East Croydon!