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Post by pauluni on May 30, 2021 12:04:38 GMT
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Post by zbang on May 30, 2021 20:40:25 GMT
The Watercress line is well worth a visit!
Besides the trains, you can see mechanical interlockings and token machines in action (they let me stand in the doorway of the cabin to watch) and at Alton you can visit the grave of the original Sweet Fanny Adams (Alton Cemetery, 13 Old Odiham Rd).
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Post by pauluni on Jun 22, 2021 12:02:44 GMT
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Post by seaeagle on Jun 26, 2021 18:09:37 GMT
Had a most enjoyable day there, nice being able to sit in comfortable train seats again!
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Post by spsmiler on Jun 28, 2021 21:54:20 GMT
A tweet showing the 4TC in action
btw, as a reply to that tweet I asked the question quoted below ... the reply was in the affirmative, which quite possibly is what we see occurring in the photo!
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Post by underover on Sept 15, 2021 20:28:03 GMT
It can, except one end currently has a fault. I think it may have actually been running via the 4TC cab controls during the event pictured in the relevant direction.
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Post by quex on Sept 16, 2021 6:47:21 GMT
It's not all that unusual in the preservation world. The Spa Valley regularly operate their 3-CIG in push-pull working as a sort of "3-TC" and Epping-Ongar have done similar with the 4-CIG they used to own.
Operationally there are some particular significant advantages for each case. For the SpVR, the layout of Eridge station does not allow for running round, so ordinarily even a single-train service requires two locomotives top-and-tailing, or swapping at Eridge. Push-pull working allows you to use just one locomotive so is good for the low season. In Epping-Ongar's case, it allowed running to Coopersale without top-and-tailing or running in reverse.
On LU, I'm not sure these advantages are worth much as the 4-TC is so often top-and-tailed on heritage workings for other reasons. But when the 4-TC is loaned out to other preserved lines, its capability is often appreciated.
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Post by DWS on Sept 16, 2021 7:04:15 GMT
It's not all that unusual in the preservation world. The Spa Valley regularly operate their 3-CIG in push-pull working as a sort of "3-TC" and Epping-Ongar have done similar with the 4-CIG they used to own. Operationally there are some particular significant advantages for each case. For the SpVR, the layout of Eridge station does not allow for running round, so ordinarily even a single-train service requires two locomotives top-and-tailing, or swapping at Eridge. Push-pull working allows you to use just one locomotive so is good for the low season. In Epping-Ongar's case, it allowed running to Coopersale without top-and-tailing or running in reverse. On LU, I'm not sure these advantages are worth much as the 4-TC is so often top-and-tailed on heritage workings for other reasons. But when the 4-TC is loaned out to other preserved lines, its capability is often appreciated. Is the LUL 4-TC unit loaned or hired out , what I mean does money change hands ? |
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Post by spsmiler on Sept 17, 2021 23:04:32 GMT
It's not all that unusual in the preservation world. The Spa Valley regularly operate their 3-CIG in push-pull working as a sort of "3-TC" and Epping-Ongar have done similar with the 4-CIG they used to own. Operationally there are some particular significant advantages for each case. For the SpVR, the layout of Eridge station does not allow for running round, so ordinarily even a single-train service requires two locomotives top-and-tailing, or swapping at Eridge. Push-pull working allows you to use just one locomotive so is good for the low season. In Epping-Ongar's case, it allowed running to Coopersale without top-and-tailing or running in reverse. On LU, I'm not sure these advantages are worth much as the 4-TC is so often top-and-tailed on heritage workings for other reasons. But when the 4-TC is loaned out to other preserved lines, its capability is often appreciated. no different in many ways to railways which (in steam engine days) ran trains in push pull mode, the Chesham shuttle having been just one of the many examples which used to operate this way here in the UK. |
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Post by miff on Sept 18, 2021 13:01:54 GMT
Is the LUL 4-TC unit loaned or hired out , what I mean does money change hands ? Hired out I assume. Andy Barr said, in his 2019 talk to the LTM Friends, both the 4-TC and Florence (LMS inspection saloon) were compatible with many kinds of haulage and available for hire to raise funds to contribute towards their their upkeep. |
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