Surrey Canal station

[aslefshrugged]

TfL has submitted a planning application to Lewisham Council for a new Overground station between Queen's Road Peckham and Surrey Quays,

It would be under the bridge where the Overground line crosses Surrey Canal Road, next to the junction with Senegal Road.  The bridge was original designed to accommodate a station but it wasn't built due to lack of funds.  It will now be paid for by the Department for Levelling Up, Housing & Communities' Housing Infrastructure Fund.

If Lewisham grant planning permission then TfL rather ambitiously expects work to start in February 2022 for completion in December 2024.

I first read about it on New Civil Engineer but London Reconnections published an article yesterday

www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/plans-finally-submitted-for-embattled-london-overground-station-after-a-decade-of-false-starts-17-11-2021/?eea=RzFWMTdTWU96eXJzMEQ2RVNPbkhmL2szeGhrUUxVQitKQzJTZkQrODJSTT0%3D&utm_source=acs&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CONE_NCE_EDI_ALL_MORNING_171121&deliveryName=DM15706

www.londonreconnections.com/2021/canal-knowledge-the-fall-and-rise-of-surrey-canal-road-station/

[taylor]

I was a little surprised when the station at Surrey Canal Road was originally envisaged instead of reinstating Old Kent Road, which would provide station in an area poorly served by trains and convenient interchange with the Bakerloo line at Leo Street/Asylum Road. I know the proximity of Millwall FC. was a factor. Admittedly, cantilevered platforms would have to be added, but the viaduct formation adjacent to the Old Kend Road at this point is 3 tracks wide. Has this been reasoned elsewhere? The area was known as Hatcham on some maps and lost its trains due mainly to several competing tram routes in the Old Kent Road. Those disappeared 70 years ago.

Maps:
maps.nls.uk/view/101202240

londonist.com/london/transport/bakerloo-line-extension-route-launch-open-date-stations-map

[aslefshrugged]

Possibly because London Overground South London Line crosses the Old Kent Road 0.5km east of where the site for the new Bakerloo Old Kent Road 2 station at Asylum Road (currently Lidl, 760 Old Kent Road) and 0.5km north of Queens Road Peckham station

Apparently the new station will be called New Bermondsey rather than Surrey Canal.

[taylor]

Hmmm...New Bermondsey -- like "South Chelsea" for Battersea, it deserves adding to the list of Roy Brooks' fanciful property descriptions, it being over 2km from Bermondsey Jubiee Line and over 3km from Bermondsey Abbey. Gervase St. to the LB&SCR viaduct is abut 350m and well shorter than many other OSIs.There are now several points where Tfl and OG services cross or run in close proximity to now allied, erstwhile once competitors' lines. I'm just wondering if anyone has examined the potential of such interchanges of late. Some have been implemented e.g. Hackney Downs / Hackney Central. But the case in point seems to me to be a lost opportunity, as the area really could do with better railway connectivity.

[Tom]

Feb 7, 2022 19:41:03 GMT taylor said:

Hmmm...New Bermondsey -- like "South Chelsea" for Battersea, it deserves adding to the list of Roy Brooks' fanciful property descriptions

For the uninitiated (which included me until I googled the name), Roy Brooks is the name of a South East London estate agent.

[aslefshrugged]

The finest "Roy Brooks"-ism was St Ockwell

Not much point of investigating such interchanges as the Bakerloo Line Extension is not going to happen until the Bakerloo Line can get more/new trains (and possibly signalling)

[Chris L]

Given that there is already South Bermondsey station just north of Millwall's ground it's not that much of a stretch.

[miff]

At one time I started telling people I lived in St. Ratford. Some of them didn’t realise I was joking so I stopped.

I should have known who Roy Brooks was but I had to look it up
I was thinking of Ray Brooks the actor and voice, for a while, of Tramlink as well as, for ever, the voice of Mr. Benn.