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Post by xtmw on Jun 23, 2023 7:59:14 GMT
Is it just me or is the Picc having alot of failures? Seems like everyday now... Don't blame it though, the equipment is ancient....
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Post by rdm on Jun 23, 2023 17:01:50 GMT
There's certainly a major problem today - no service Acton Town - Hammersmith all day so far due to 'a signal failure'. District seems unaffected though.
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Post by sealingmark on Jun 23, 2023 17:06:22 GMT
Wasn’t it last Sunday that a signal failure at Acton Town took out both the Picc and the District Between Hammersmith and Acton Town? That fault was ongoing for many hours, not sure if to end of service.
At least today’s fail left the District still running.
Meanwhile Crossrail merely has Severe Delays due to their current signal failure. Can the line controller authorise SPADs on a one train per section basis?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 23, 2023 19:27:10 GMT
Indeed Sunday was track circuit failures at Hammersmith, so a set of points were undetected. Piccadilly suspended Acton Town-Hyde Park Corner eastbound 1050, and both directions 1140-1156. Then again 1230-1258. District suspended 1515-1615.
Same circuits failed at Hammersmith on Monday, Piccadilly suspended Acton Town-Hyde Park Corner 1335-1430.
Today, a very late start because signal investigation work at Acton Town, services initially suspended Northfields/South Harrow-Hammersmith. 0630 service only suspended Acton Town-Hammersmith. District suspended until 0510.
Shuttle services operating:
Rayners Lane-Acton Town 4 Trains (100-103)
Heathrow-Acton Town 13 Trains (501-520)
Hammersmith-Cockfosters 18 Trains (300-324)
Night Tube operated
Heathrow T5-Northfields 6 trains (501 503 506 512 513 520)
Hammersmith-Cockfosters 10 trains (300-324).
Services resumed to normal 0500 24 June.
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Post by xtmw on Jun 24, 2023 11:25:15 GMT
...Let's see how long it lasts today
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Post by sealingmark on Jun 24, 2023 17:04:27 GMT
Thanks for the details.
Given the mryiad components, mechanical, electrical, electronic and human, perhaps one should be surprised by how often it all works, rather than doesn't work.
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Post by xtmw on Jun 25, 2023 0:24:44 GMT
I know it is a pain for people when one of the lines goes down and they can't complete a journey to a certain place, but is is amazing how everything is usually working considering trains pass over some sections of the line every 1 or 2 minutes. Picc has just had bad luck these past few days. Hopefully next week it's all systems go !
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Post by roverlei on Jun 27, 2023 15:27:27 GMT
Is it just me or is the Picc having alot of failures? Seems like everyday now... Don't blame it though, the equipment is ancient.... FINALLY someone else who sees it! I'm a daily commuter on the Picc and it's diabolical. Signal issues, particularly at Barons Court and Acton Town manage to royally screw things up in both directions. I don't know how much longer we're expected to put up with this, but my guess is until there's new signalling which, by my understanding, comes some time after new rolling stock. My sanity may not last that long. |
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Post by roverlei on Jun 27, 2023 15:30:33 GMT
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Post by metman on Jun 27, 2023 20:49:28 GMT
The usual negativity from the Evening Standard.
The signalling is an issue though. One wonders how any improvements are going to transpire apart from the additional capacity the new trains deliver.
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Post by jimbo on Jun 27, 2023 20:56:05 GMT
Same could be said for the current trains even after near fifty years!
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Post by roverlei on Jun 28, 2023 6:09:16 GMT
The usual negativity from the Evening Standard. The signalling is an issue though. One wonders how any improvements are going to transpire apart from the additional capacity the new trains deliver. Indeed the article is negative, but I'm struggling to look for positives. For what I pay for my monthly travel card, I could commute through Vienna for six months. And I fully realise that neither TfL nor its staff are responsible for this awful service, but it still doesn't improve my everyday commute. |
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Post by tomd on Jun 28, 2023 7:11:26 GMT
Another failure at Acton Town today. Becoming a bit of a trend lately.
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Post by xtmw on Jun 28, 2023 10:25:03 GMT
Another failure at Acton Town today. Becoming a bit of a trend lately. Well at least it hasn't crippled the service |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 28, 2023 12:57:53 GMT
Another failure at Acton Town today. Becoming a bit of a trend lately. overnight failure of 44 points at Acton Town, WB departing pfm.2 and 37 points at Turnham Green, WB departing. Services resumed 0600. With the exception of a small delay at Hyde Park Corner last evening, there have been no reportable incidents, since this thread was opened on 23 June. |
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Post by roverlei on Jun 28, 2023 16:09:00 GMT
Wow. A whole 5 days with (barely) no screw-ups. Are we supposed to celebrate this?
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Post by goldenarrow on Jun 28, 2023 20:51:48 GMT
I appreciate that having a service that has taken a fair bit of a battering over the years does lead to the urge to vent. However, as some of our more experienced members have recalled much better than I can, every line has gone through peaks and troughs reflecting the general state of the network at that point in time and the political/financial backdrop that influences it.
Given the recent issues of the last few years, I would say the Piccadilly line is nearing the deep end of one of those troughs. It’s a far from ideal situation but alas, the line is in a particularly constrained situation where mitigations are the only realistic option rather than the longer term investments that are the ultimate remedy to this
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Post by xtmw on Jun 28, 2023 21:04:47 GMT
Just think in a few years this will all be sorted....
I say that but all new things have a period when they settle in and the issues have to be ironed out
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Post by trt on Jun 29, 2023 14:01:05 GMT
Wow. A whole 5 days with (barely) no screw-ups. Are we supposed to celebrate this? Ah... well you see 5 days is the baseline sampling period for normal service. It's a kind of rolling average sort of a deal. |
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Post by xtmw on Sept 14, 2023 8:48:10 GMT
For the past few days the message 'due to a signal failure at Northfields' is becoming very familliar
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 14, 2023 10:33:05 GMT
Unfortunately, a recurring problem with 17/18 points on the eastbound approach to station:
12 September 1600, eastbound train stalled 43min, failure lifted after 100mins. Failure reoccured 1825, services resumed 2140.
13 September 0820, eastbound train stalled 50min, failure lifted after 121mins.
Services started late this morning 14/9 while a fix was undertaken, resuming at 0545.
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Post by roverlei on Sept 15, 2023 12:36:28 GMT
It's diabolical on the Picc right now. Rayners Lane has had the SEVERE DELAYS sign out three times this week. To be perfectly frank, the reliability of the line is affecting my mental state: it destroys you day, and sometimes on both the journey to and from work.
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