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Post by Phil on May 13, 2006 10:57:42 GMT
Look at this shot I came across recently. The truly amazing thing is the caption.... A 1910 District Railway motor car in London Transport days coupled to a Q35 trailer. Many trains with handworked doors had them left open in the summer, as seen in this view.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2006 11:04:09 GMT
Perhaps folk wern't as stupid then.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2006 11:55:39 GMT
Well, the only people who would close the doors were the passengers: there were no staff to do that. In cold or wet weather, the punters would close the doors; but in hot weather they would not bother.
It was the same in Sydney until the last of the handworked door stock was retired around 1980.
People were expected to look after themselves then: the open door was obviously dangerous, so hang onto the hand rails....
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Post by marty on May 13, 2006 18:53:56 GMT
Well - tis a bit obvious - I think it´s quite stuffy in some Tube Trains in Summer...
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2006 19:13:26 GMT
Some time ago, I rode on the Madrid Metro. In operation then were some wonderful clerestory roofed stock, built during the dictatorship of General Franco. These trains had unglazed clerestory sides, half glazed windows and large gaps under the seats, through which you could see equipment, wheels etc.. They were lovely in the hot, humid climate of Madrid - I don't think they ever went into the open air.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2006 18:25:36 GMT
the old now withdrawn Berlin S Bahn trains were similar - the doors skammed shut on departure - but you could open them freely on the move and be ready for a quick exit on the bext stop.
On a Friday night trip to Alexamderplatz - this facilty was used by locals to (a) get fresh air on a warm evening (b) by those who after some good beer - needed a relielf.
Musnt go into details - but they ran for over 60 years so the Darwin rate must have been acceptable in a very structured society.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2006 21:59:52 GMT
Musnt go into details - but they ran for over 60 years so the Darwin rate must have been acceptable in a very structured society. "Darwin rate" - like it! Would be very high on the District I fear. Arguably, with our safety systems, we interfere too much with Darwinian natural selection.
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Post by Phil on May 31, 2006 22:03:31 GMT
Sorry to reply to my own thread, but only today my son showed me a video made by a friend of his in Belgium in 1991: exactly the same thing. Summer, hand-worked doors, wide open. Even folks standing in doorways reading papers.
But could you imagine the chav factor these days??
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Post by mandgc on Jun 1, 2006 4:57:27 GMT
I don't remember hearing of Pasengers falling out of the District Hand Worked Doors or the Metropolitan Swing Doors when I was on the-----when I worked for LT.
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Post by Tomcakes on Jun 1, 2006 8:45:57 GMT
But could you imagine the chav factor these days?? Darwin Awards all round ;D.
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Post by william on Jun 1, 2006 8:53:51 GMT
If you think about it, this clear breach of safety regs, is insignificant to the railway authorities of India.
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