What does this say................

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I have come across this picture world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?44434 , at first I thought the destination blind said 'HAINAULT via Newbury Park' but the last bit is too long. It looks like '-------- & Ealing Broadway', but I've never seen a destination with Ealing worded like that. Any ideas what it could be?

[clavman]

It's almost certainly Hainualt via Newbury Pk caught in mid scan. That's quite an old pic as the tripcock isolating switch levers are now long gone. Also the train is being driven manually.

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clavman said:

It's almost certainly Hainualt via Newbury Pk caught in mid scan. That's quite an old pic as the tripcock isolating switch levers are now long gone. Also the train is being driven manually.

According to the details it's nearly 9 years old

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clavman said:

It's almost certainly Hainualt via Newbury Pk caught in mid scan.

Looks more like Hainault via Woodford to me...

alexh said:

According to the details it's nearly 9 years old

Thats about right as the trains were still in "tripcock mode", as the picture shows.

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Definately Hainault Via Newbury Park.

[q8]

I have enlarged the pic and it is Hainault via Newbury park in mid scan as has been stated.

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How can you tell the train is being driven manually? Is that just from the fact that the picture was taken in 1997, when ATO was perhaps not in operation then?

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soultrain said:

How can you tell the train is being driven manually? Is that just from the fact that the picture was taken in 1997, when ATO was perhaps not in operation then?

The lever on the front is why!
That lever cut in and out the trip, when the train entered an ATP operative area (NOT ATO) the trip was cut out and the train automatically selected ATP. All this took place before ATO was introduced, between 1995 and 1999

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soultrain said:

How can you tell the train is being driven manually? Is that just from the fact that the picture was taken in 1997, when ATO was perhaps not in operation then?

The driver's awake

Sam

[edb]

So the 92 stock could easily be converted for tripcock useage?

[clavman]

edb said:

So the 92 stock could easily be converted for tripcock useage?

They were originally delivered as tripcock trains, even though the aim was for ATP. After ATP was fully implemented the tripcocks were removed. There's still a 3 minute tripcock delay indicator in every cab, even though that is now redundant as far as the Central Line is concerned. If the trains went to another conventional signalled line, then they could easily be converted back.

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I have a 1997 WTT, and looking at it Train 40 during the day did Eal - Woodford via Hainault. Could either 'Hainault via NP' or Woodfod via Hainault' be used for this trip?

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Usually, Woodford Via Hainault. Sometimes I set up the destination as Hainault via Newbury Park, and then change this at either Leytonstone or Hainault. Setting up the train as W'fd via Hainault causes no end of confusion!!! I get punters asking if the train goes to Gants Hill etc.

[superteacher]

alexh said:

I have a 1997 WTT, and looking at it Train 40 during the day did Eal - Woodford via Hainault. Could either 'Hainault via NP' or Woodfod via Hainault' be used for this trip?

In those days, 92 stock couldn't display Woodford via Hainault - I thonk they modified a few units to display it, but the DVA couldn't say "Woodford via Hainault". The orginal DVA was designed in the early 1990's, when the Hainault to Woodford section was still mainly a shuttle, therefore is was never provided as a destination. In fact, it was never on the 1962 stock blinds until the very last issue, when it was displayed as black on yellow. Hainault via Woodford was never on 62 stoclk blinds until the last issue, and yet this destination WAS on the original 92 stock DVA.

[jamesb]

I accidentally probably irritated a Central Line TOp not so long ago; the destination was showing Hainault and nothing else at Tottenham Court Road. I looked puzzled at the destination display and I heard the front door slamming when he opened it to stick his head out and look. He still didn't change it though!

It could mean anything - Hainault via Newbury Park, Hainault via Woodford, Woodford via Hainault - although I accept statistically it probably was Hainault via Newbury Park! ;D ;D ;D AND I just learnt how you spell Haunault!

tubeoperator92 said:

Usually, Woodford Via Hainault. Sometimes I set up the destination as Hainault via Newbury Park, and then change this at either Leytonstone or Hainault. Setting up the train as W'fd via Hainault causes no end of confusion!!! I get punters asking if the train goes to Gants Hill etc.

[mandgc]

It is surprising that, where confusion can be caused, Drivers are not instructed by an entry in the WTT where to change their Destination Signs.