Hainault loop to get re zoned 5 to 4

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Central line stations on Hainault loop to join Zone 4
From 2 January 2007, some stations on the Central line will move from Zone 5 to Zone 4.


Cash savings thanks to Zone change
The stations that are affected are Barkingside, Fairlop, Hainault, Grange Hill, Chigwell and Roding Valley.

Customers travelling from these stations will pay less than they would do if these stations remained in Zone 5.

Jeff Ellis, General Manager, Central line said: 'Passenger numbers on this part of the line have traditionally been low compared to other parts of the Tube network.

'We are trying to increase passenger demand on this section of the Central line by making a number of changes to make Tube travel as attractive as possible.

'Now we have decided that these stations currently in Zone 5 will move to Zone 4 from 2 January 2007.

'This will have the benefit of simplifying the current fares structure and means that customers travelling from these stations will pay less than they did previously when they were in Zone 5.

'Last month, the Hainault loop received a major boost when services began operating beyond 8pm until the end of Central line services between Hainault to Woodford via Roding Valley.

'Prior to the timetable change, Central line services had not served Grange Hill, Chigwell and Roding Valley stations after 8pm for many years.'

London Underground has no plans at present to re-zone other Tube stations.

[compsci]

I can see someone trying a revised route for the tube challenge now that the eastern end of the Central Line can be done at the end. It's one of the few long spurs without a realistic alternative to get back to the centre again quickly. For example you can get back from Upminster using C2C in a fraction of the time taken by going back on the District.

[Oracle]

www.tubechallenge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=476
refers however to an Epping finish. Once upon a time when we at LURS administered the record attempts, from about 1979 in practice, you started at Ongar and finished at Upminster. Now they seem to start at Amersham and finish, where....?

[Tubeboy]

A change to the tube map will be necessary, how much money will be spent exactly?

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I can remember when there were only FOUR Zones... have an old travelcard somewhere with Z123ABC...

[Chris M]

I've got an old electronic copy somewhere, possibly from around 1997, that has no zone D and the key still makes reference to the possibility of Central Line stations beyond Z6, although Ongar, etc were already no more.

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Watford will/has moved to Zone A... probably in readyness for the TfL take-over of the Euston Watford DC Local lines...

[Chris M]

Watford Met was in Zone A at least as far back as June 2005 (the oldest map I have readily to hand)

[Deleted]

Watford Met moved to Zone A in late 2003/early 2004. citysig or Harsig would know best.

[Chris M]

I've found a map shown as version "04.03", which I believe translates to April 2003, which shows it in Zone B. By version "1.05" (January 2005) of the London Connections map it is in Zone A.

I've also found a zones map "(C) London Regional Transport" with no obvious version number but a file modification date on my system as 03 March 1998, the JLE was still under construction the DLR extensions to Lewisham and King George V weren't shown as even proposed. Mornington Crescent was closed for rebuilding.
Zones 1 to 6 are shown in different colours (1= white, 2 = green, 3 = yellow, 4 = salmon, 5 = blue, 6 = pink) with a thin white line between them, but Zones A, B and C were shown as one group on a white background. Stations in these zones had §A, §B or §C as appropriate in red after the station name.
Stations in Zones 1 and 2 had green and white hatching, other stations in two zones had a white box. Moor Park is not shown as being in Zone 6 and Zone A but the symbol is placed on the line dividing the two zones. Similarly Epping is shown on the border of zone 6 and being beyond the zones, although there is no line to Ongar. Upminster by contrast is placed wholly within zone 6

The key for the zones shows the stations beyond the zones as a table:

	Metropolitan Line	Central Line
A	Croxley, Rickmansworth
B	Chalfont & Latimer, Choleywood, Watford
C	Amersham, Chesham

The diagram of stations in zones also uses the red of Central Line rather than today's maps that use the Met Line colour. The key diagram suggests that stations in more than one zone can only occur between 1 & 2 and 3 & 4, despite other combinations appearing on the map - e.g. South Wimbledon in zones 5 and 6.

I would simply upload a copy but I know that the powers that be are happy to have really old maps around the net, but are less than keen on modern ones. If someone knows the score let me know.

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oracle said:

www.tubechallenge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=476
refers however to an Epping finish. Once upon a time when we at LURS administered the record attempts, from about 1979 in practice, you started at Ongar and finished at Upminster. Now they seem to start at Amersham and finish, where....?

Upminster

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robster said:

Central line stations on Hainault loop to join Zone 4
From 2 January 2007, some stations on the Central line will move from Zone 5 to Zone 4.


Cash savings thanks to Zone change
The stations that are affected are Barkingside, Fairlop, Hainault, Grange Hill, Chigwell and Roding Valley.

Well, obviously keep well away from these stations for fear of being crushed in the stampede of new passengers.

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stephenk said:

oracle said:

www.tubechallenge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=476
refers however to an Epping finish. Once upon a time when we at LURS administered the record attempts, from about 1979 in practice, you started at Ongar and finished at Upminster. Now they seem to start at Amersham and finish, where....?

Upminster

The world record was set on a Heathrow finish.

[trc666]

Morden has been used as a finish in the past with a Chesham start.