One Under at Harrow-on-the-Hill

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Could see the back of the train on platform one stopped short from the bus station.

The station assistant seemed really shaken up when he was telling people why the station was closed.

Not nice.

[Chris M]

my thoughts go out to all involved.

[Tubeboy]

Second that. I thank God, I have never had to deal with a person under a train. Your mind would have to be tortured to do something like that, disgusts me when the public complain they will be late for work. The person involved in the incident is someone's Mother, father, child etc. Not forgetting the driver also


Forgot to say how wonderful the ERU are, a truly underappreciated role, thanks MSO..

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tubeboy said:

Second that. I thank God, I have never had to deal with a person under a train. Your mind would have to be tortured to do something like that, disgusts me when the public complain they will be late for work. The person involved in the incident is someone's Mother, father, child etc. Not forgetting the driver also.

Thats why i admire the likes of the ERU who deal with that as part of their job, day in, day out. And someone tried o tell me ERU have it easy!

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not to mention the poor station staff who have to deal with all sorts while all shooken up

[pakenhamtrain]

I send My thoughts to everyone involved.
Having witnessed Near Misses down here I know how it feels.

[Phil]

pakenhamtrain said:

I send My thoughts to everyone involved.
Having witnessed Near Misses down here I know how it feels.

Pakenhamtrain: a near miss is NOT the same as as a one-under: believe me, I know.......

Sorry, but you have no idea how it feels.

[Oracle]

A friend of mine, Brian Panting, had a deliberate one-under, oh, 25 years go when he was a Picc driver. He has now left LU. He never recovered from the incident even years afterwards. It will no doubt haunt him for the rest of his life.

[chris]

Is there anything the public can do to help the situation should we ever be unfortunate enough to be in the presence of one, or is it best to leave and let everyone do their job and encourage other to do likewise?

[c5]

If you think someone is likely to "jump" one of the best things you can do is alert a member of staff or dial 999 and/or unless you are able to talk to them/coax them away from the area.

If they have already jumped, you can then move any witnesses away from the area and wait for police/station staff to attend.

Of course you should always follow the advice of station/rail staff, police or the emergency services.

The Harrow incident was reported as a near miss by the previous train and station staff were dealing, when the person jumped.

This isnt what the rule book says but just common sense

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oracle said:

A friend of mine, Brian Panting, had a deliberate one-under, oh, 25 years go when he was a Picc driver. He has now left LU. He never recovered from the incident even years afterwards. It will no doubt haunt him for the rest of his life.

I've read an article saying almost all of them are deliberate. Out of the 110 or so people that get run over every year, only 9 or 10 are actual accidents or murder (like Highbury & Islington in June, or Mile end four years ago), the rest are suicides.

[Tubeboy]

The number of "one unders" thankfully, seems to be on the decline. I remember the East end having a fair number of them, Bethnal Green, Mile End [not the incident referred to above] etc. Stations near hospitals also suffer as well, for obvious reasons.

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tubeboy said:

The number of "one unders" thankfully, seems to be on the decline. I remember the East end having a fair number of them, Bethnal Green, Mile End [not the incident referred to above] etc. Stations near hospitals also suffer as well, for obvious reasons.

Christmas time is another favourite. Mile End WB platform has a direct line to the samaritans for that reason!!

[citysig]

Let's just hope the chap didn't feel the need to do such a thing after failing to attain the nationally celebrated A-level passes.

There are of course many many reasons both rational and irrational for why people choose to take their own life and in this way. Many of which, plus the experience of others was gone into at some great length in a past thread.

districtdave.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=Stations&action=display&thread=1111847327&page=1

Without making light of this matter it is all very shocking to everyone involved, but please, the weather is miserable enough without another morbid thread. That one went to 7 pages and as can be seen was exhausted to the point of argument.

[Oracle]

I had a client 30 years ago who on his 21st birthday deliberately and with malice aforethought jumped at South Ken Picc. I have never forgotten it, and I was only a young trainee who did not know the family as my boss did. He had achieved what he wanted, namely to spite his father.

It has brightened up in the late evening sky here. A nice evening. Blue skies and no cloud. Hope that it is like that where you are.

[agoodcuppa]

Back when we had them, if a Motorman was asked what he wanted for Christmas the stock answer was "A jumper". ;D

However, that would probably upset the PC types these days (if they knew what it meant).

[towerman]

The other "joke" about jumpers around Christmas was "There goes another loan club secretary"

[tubeprune]

towerman said:

The other "joke" about jumpers around Christmas was "There goes another loan club secretary"

There was a butcher's son who took a dive at Oxford Circus in the days of Standard Stock on the Central Line (not me. Mine were on the Picc and Circle). It was just before Christmas. He had stolen the Xmas Club money from his father's shop and then had second thoughts. When he hit the front of the train, his pockets burst open and pound notes were blowing about all over the station. Poor B****r didn't survive and less than half of his father's £600 was ever found! In those days, £9 was a big week, before tax.

[Phil]

OK folks - that's it. As has been said above, there is another very similar thread on the forum.

HotH has been dealt with. Thread locked.