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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2006 19:37:18 GMT
Must have been Mon pm - its been a busy week - a train announced as "not in service" stopped and opened up at R Square on the westbound and went into servic - only went to Leicster SQ and like an idiot missed seeing the dot matrix.
Now an empty triain at that time is a rare luxury - could it have turned at Kings Cross on the crossover - or was it perhaps a depot train running late and dropped in there.
Rare indeed I suppose ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2006 19:43:18 GMT
Either that or a faulty DMI or the anno was made in error
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2006 22:19:53 GMT
Trains can carry passengers through the crossover at Kings X, so I'm surprised that the train was completely empty. Maybe it was reversed empty at Kings X for crowd control reasons? I travelled through the crossover a few years back, when the first SB train of the morning (on Sundays?) reversed in the NB platform and returned SB.
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Post by mandgc on Aug 17, 2006 9:44:56 GMT
Tipping a train out in the Eastbound Platform and not telling Westbound passegers would probably get it away with the least delay.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2006 10:18:08 GMT
There's a similar situation on the District at Earls Court. Trains can depart westbound platform 3 in service Eastbound but in practice trains reversing there are almost always tipped out because it would cause chaos to suddenly announce that the next city bound train is from platform 3! And of course you'd get people who wanted to go west getting on it...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2006 11:04:00 GMT
Tipping a train out in the Eastbound Platform and not telling Westbound passegers would probably get it away with the least delay. Thats what I was going to say! If you try and get passengers accross you will shut down the Eeast and westbound. So best get it in, everybody off and go west.
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Post by robots on Aug 17, 2006 23:46:49 GMT
Following two signal failures , one passenger ill on a train and
one report of smoke in the tunnel it was a miracle there
was any service on the Picc at all . Almost certainly that
train at Russell Square was reversed east to west at Kings
Cross .It is invariably quicker to reverse a train there empty
unless plenty of station staff are available to send punters
across to the eastbound . 99 times out of a hundred it isn 't
worth it .
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 18, 2006 17:55:00 GMT
Trains can carry passengers through the crossover at Kings X, so I'm surprised that the train was completely empty. Maybe it was reversed empty at Kings X for crowd control reasons? I travelled through the crossover a few years back, when the first SB train of the morning (on Sundays?) reversed in the NB platform and returned SB. The trains on Sunday still run! 0657 and 0712 Kings X-Heathrow, having worked from Heathrow on the inward working.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2006 18:35:22 GMT
The trains on Sunday still run! 0657 and 0712 Kings X-Heathrow, having worked from Heathrow on the inward working. Just to add to this thread...coming up later this year, the Piccadilly Line platforms at Kings Cross will be closed on various weekends, for CTRL works. (all other lines will stop as normal) Its almost a straightforward non stopping of all Picc trains, except for those two Kings Cross reversers early on a Sunday morning as mentioned above. As a result, these trains will terminate at Russell Square on the EB, and run empty to Kings Cross, reverse, and return into service at Russell Square WB. Dont know what the policy will be on train descriptions.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2006 18:00:25 GMT
Out of curiousity - does the 73TS have a Russel Square destination on the blinds ? - or does the ubiquitous "Special" apply ?
Many thanks for all the clarification points from all you guys .......
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Post by Oracle on Aug 26, 2006 18:12:03 GMT
Never heard of it when new! KINGS CROSS was there obviously.
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Post by trc666 on Aug 26, 2006 19:26:31 GMT
The on-train DMIs can display any station on the Piccadilly line.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2006 19:43:13 GMT
The on-train DMIs can display any station on the Piccadilly line. However they cannot display "Special" its either blank (IE not set up) or "Not in Service"
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Post by Tomcakes on Aug 29, 2006 12:12:26 GMT
The on-train DMIs can display any station on the Piccadilly line. And Ealing Broadway, West Kensington and Aldwych!
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Post by Christopher J on Aug 29, 2006 12:27:13 GMT
And High Street Ken.
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Post by trc666 on Aug 29, 2006 13:40:24 GMT
Why those stations?
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Post by Tomcakes on Aug 29, 2006 14:08:38 GMT
I presume it's because they're just off the Picc line and trains may be routed there in exceptional circumstances?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2006 19:24:16 GMT
I presume it's because they're just off the Picc line and trains may be routed there in exceptional circumstances? Well there used to be a Piccadilly staff train to reversing at West Ken. As for Ealing Broadway, it is possible to route a Piccadilly train there, but it wouldn't be planned to do it in customer service, so I'm not sure what good having it as an option on the DMI would be.
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Post by trc666 on Aug 29, 2006 20:40:12 GMT
Well, I wouldn't say High Street Kensington is 'just' off the Piccadilly track wise. I know Piccadilly drivers sign Ealing Broadway and the 'local' lines from Baron's Court to Acton Town, but do they still sign West Kensington? Is there anywhere else Piccadilly drivers sign?
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Post by Chris M on Aug 29, 2006 21:25:19 GMT
As for Ealing Broadway, it is possible to route a Piccadilly train there, but it wouldn't be planned to do it in customer service, so I'm not sure what good having it as an option on the DMI would be. My guess is that it is either due to the perrenial speculation about the Picc and DR swapping the Uxbridge and Ealing Broadway branches, or as a possible destination during engineering works. If either of these were even seriously considered in the ~5 years prior to 1973 then it would make sense to have EB on the blinds.
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Post by trc666 on Aug 30, 2006 20:28:27 GMT
Are the 73 stock cleared to Gunnersbury as an emergency destination, if using the local line instead of the fast for some reason? Have Piccadilly drivers 'signed' this route?
EDIT: Having said that, I doubt it as Network Rail signalling and rules apply at Gunnersbury.
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