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Post by setttt on Jul 22, 2005 16:17:31 GMT
Are Bakerloo trains ever stabled on the through lines in the car shed at the Northern end of Queen's Park?
Answers appreciated.
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Post by q8 on Jul 22, 2005 17:20:58 GMT
No Seth. Not on the through lines as they may be needed for engineers trains to Stonebridge Park in the night. The two middle sidings are used for stablers though (or used to be)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2005 17:24:38 GMT
There used to be a train stabled on the road that leads to the southbound platform as well as the southbound platform itself.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2005 17:28:04 GMT
AFAIK, one train does stable on the southbound road. (Well it has recently!)
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Post by q8 on Jul 22, 2005 17:55:05 GMT
So what happens if the train(s) stabled on the southbound are non-starters in the morning and can't move?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2005 18:13:41 GMT
Trains can leave the sidings and reverse and run south from the northbound platform.
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Post by q8 on Jul 22, 2005 18:24:27 GMT
Trains can leave the sidings and reverse and run south from the northbound platform.
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You misunderstood me Jim. If a train is stabled on the southbound through in the north shed overnight and it's a non-mover in the morning what then?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2005 19:12:02 GMT
Trains can leave the sidings and reverse and run south from the northbound platform. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You misunderstood me Jim. If a train is stabled on the southbound through in the north shed overnight and it's a non-mover in the morning what then? Trains can still leave from the other roads in the North Shed and still reverse via the other roads. The only thing is trains would not be able to come down from Stonebridge Park, any trains which had already left Stonebridge Park will have to run to Kilburn High Road and run North from there. |
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Post by q8 on Jul 22, 2005 19:18:02 GMT
The only thing is trains would not be able to come down from Stonebridge Park, any trains which had already left Stonebridge Park will have to run to Kilburn High Road and run North from there.
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Ah thats what I wanted to get straight. Seems stupid to me to stable trains on a running road.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2005 19:22:21 GMT
Ah thats what I wanted to get straight. Seems stupid to me to stable trains on a running road. This was the practice in the early 80s, shortage of stabling space i believe. Maybe Tom has more up to date info. |
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Post by towerman on Jul 22, 2005 19:53:40 GMT
I think they've now changed it back to 21rd,the NB running road.
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Post by banana on Jul 22, 2005 22:11:04 GMT
Trains can leave the sidings and reverse and run south from the northbound platform. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You misunderstood me Jim. If a train is stabled on the southbound through in the north shed overnight and it's a non-mover in the morning what then? Trains can still leave from the other roads in the North Shed and still reverse via the other roads. The only thing is trains would not be able to come down from Stonebridge Park, any trains which had already left Stonebridge Park will have to run to Kilburn High Road and run North from there. When I used to stay up that way I'd often (well maybe twice in 2 years) see empty stock Bakerloo trains arrive onthe southbound and reverse at Kilburn High Road towards Queens Park. Would a failure be the only reason I'd see one there? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2005 6:34:09 GMT
Trains can still leave from the other roads in the North Shed and still reverse via the other roads. The only thing is trains would not be able to come down from Stonebridge Park, any trains which had already left Stonebridge Park will have to run to Kilburn High Road and run North from there. When I used to stay up that way I'd often (well maybe twice in 2 years) see empty stock Bakerloo trains arrive onthe southbound and reverse at Kilburn High Road towards Queens Park. Would a failure be the only reason I'd see one there? There used to be a daily move, to Kilburn High Road, for route familiarision purposes and road training.Other than that it was only used in Train or signalling failure situations. |
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Post by Tom on Jul 23, 2005 21:43:27 GMT
Just had a look at my pics and it appears they stable on all four roads. tunnelbana.fotopic.net/p11540269.html shows trains stabled on all four. However, they all outstable (taking it in turn) in the platforms every six weeks or so for litter picking and maintenance in the sheds. I don't think engineer's trains go north of Queens Park very often, I used to know a TransPlant driver who told me they don't have route knowledge north of there. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2005 0:03:37 GMT
I remeber going into the south stable at Queens park after my cab ride on the bakerloo you see my sis had a freind who had a dad who is incharge of the signals on the bakerloo and i found it to be very small and clearly a bit old and musty in the drivers lockers.
One thing to note it feels a bit on edge when you standing a few inches away from the positive rail lol
But no i think there was only two or three in this end.
Well i was only 10 so but i rekon it was 2 or 3
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Post by Tom on Sept 24, 2005 10:10:11 GMT
I have a horrible feeling I know your sister's friend's dad, putting two and two together (and hopefully coming up with five) it sounds like my old signal manager...
The south shed normally holds four trains, and continued to do so on Wednesday and Thursday nights of this week when I was at Queen's Park.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2005 17:08:59 GMT
Skillet? ring any bells?
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Post by Tom on Sept 24, 2005 19:10:08 GMT
Skillett? Yes, I used to work for Mr Skillett until about six months ago. Less said about that the better I think.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2005 1:42:32 GMT
Tom in one of your night-time Bakerloo pics (pic 0084 - London Rd 01:04) is that a 72mk1 in the bottom corner? If so is it still there?
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Post by Tom on Nov 12, 2005 15:19:56 GMT
Yes it is a 72 Mk1 - the 'Garry Day' train (named after a former Track Manager). Last time I was at London Road it was still there and apparently not fit to travel anywhere by rail.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2005 20:23:31 GMT
Is it performing Christmas duties then, or will it be scrapped or stripped to feed the Aldywch 72 and the TRV mkII?
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Post by Tom on Nov 12, 2005 20:33:56 GMT
Christmas Duties??
It's already been raided by the Train Techs for items which are compatible with 72 Mk2 units (and I had my eyes on the guards panels - taking them home by tube would have been fun), so I would guess it's next move will be on the back of a low-loader for scrap.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2005 22:53:00 GMT
"Christmas Tree"? Isn't that what the resident unit getting stripped is called? It's already been raided by the Train Techs for items which are compatible with 72 Mk2 units (and I had my eyes on the guards panels - taking them home by tube would have been fun), so I would guess it's next move will be on the back of a low-loader for scrap. Fair enough. When is it likely to leave? |
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Post by Tom on Nov 13, 2005 18:18:08 GMT
"Christmas Tree"? Isn't that what the resident unit getting stripped is called? It's a new one to me. It's already been raided by the Train Techs for items which are compatible with 72 Mk2 units (and I had my eyes on the guards panels - taking them home by tube would have been fun), so I would guess it's next move will be on the back of a low-loader for scrap. Fair enough. When is it likely to leave? Your guess is as good as mine. Whenever space in there becomes a premium again I guess. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2005 7:41:53 GMT
I wish I had vast amounts of money - I could save it myself. What a waste of train. I only just caught the last days for 72/59 working on the Northern and think it would be good for generations to come to see what real trains were like (not 92/95/96's). P.S When I say last days I mean about 3 - 4 years worth (Not long enough)
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Post by blootop on Nov 21, 2006 3:40:10 GMT
The Kilburn High Road move is still done. Well, timetabled at least. Currently on the Elephant duty that brings out the OOS train 252 from Stonebridge depot.
That old heap is still occupying 6rd... Not sure there'd be room for a 7 car unit there now anyway... they've built some kind of hut at the end of it!! They rolled the old unit forward about 30ft to build it.
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Post by bakerloo38 on Aug 8, 2008 8:52:20 GMT
Are Bakerloo trains ever stabled on the through lines in the car shed at the Northern end of Queen's Park? Answers appreciated. we stabled on all shed roads 21 to 26. and the platforms once, a train ran away during the night and got as far as Oxford circus and back to regents pk. |
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