Going in no particular direction

[Chris W]

Gents

Traveling on the Jubilee Line earlier today, I heard an interesting announcement at North Greenwich:

"This is a Westbound train terminating at West Ham"

So I take it that compasses are not standard kit in cabs ;D ;D ;D

I don't know if anyone knows any Jubilee T/O's, but just in case they do I checked my watch at we left the station.... it was at 10:35

Has the Jubilee now become the outer circle line

[DWS]

Well the Jubilee has Northbound, Westbound, Southbound and Eastbound, so some times the Drivers get it wrong.

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IMHO on lines such as the Jubilee, if the T/Op wants to make an announcement as to where the train terminates, it is less confusing to the passengers to leave out which direction of the compass the train is traveling. The in car line maps are straight left to right and visa versa.

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dennis said:

IMHO on lines such as the Jubilee, if the T/Op wants to make an announcement as to where the train terminates, it is less confusing to the passengers to leave out which direction of the compass the train is traveling. The in car line maps are straight left to right and visa versa.

"This is a leftbound train to......Stanmore" ;D

On a serious note, I see little point in announcing any kind of compass direction. Just tell the passengers that 'this train terminates at' and they have all the means to work it out for themselves.

[Chris M]

biolizard said:

On a serious note, I see little point in announcing any kind of compass direction. Just tell the passengers that 'this train terminates at' and they have all the means to work it out for themselves.

"This is a Circle Line train to here"
"This train is for Hammersmith via five trips around the circle line"
"This is a Cricle Line train to everywhere"
"Welcome to the magical mystery tour of the Waterloo and City Line"
"This is a Waterloo & City Line train"
"This is a District Line train to your guess is as good as mine"

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"This is a District Line train to, err, I havent decided yet"

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dws said:

Well the Jubilee has Northbound, Westbound, Southbound and Eastbound, so some times the Drivers get it wrong.

I remember an anacronym (if I've spelt that right) I saw years ago to describe the direction of travel used.

OUSE & WIND

Outer
Up
Southbound
Eastbound

and

Westbound
Inner
Northbound
Down

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alexh said:

dws said:

Well the Jubilee has Northbound, Westbound, Southbound and Eastbound, so some times the Drivers get it wrong.

I remember an anacronym (if I've spelt that right) I saw years ago to describe the direction of travel used.

OUSE & WIND

Outer
Up
Southbound
Eastbound

and

Westbound
Inner
Northbound
Down

Yep, thats exactly how we were taught to remember things.

[stanmorek]

alexh said:

dws said:

Well the Jubilee has Northbound, Westbound, Southbound and Eastbound, so some times the Drivers get it wrong.

I remember an anacronym (if I've spelt that right) I saw years ago to describe the direction of travel used.

OUSE & WIND

Outer
Up
Southbound
Eastbound

and

Westbound
Inner
Northbound
Down

Its still used in the Network Rail PTS handbook.

In giving a warning of an oncoming train the lookout will blow his whistle and indicate the road by the number of blows. Once for OUSE and twice for WIND.

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Surely if you're working over two lines there should be a lookout in each direction?

Sam

[Deleted]

I don't know how it works on NR. I recall on LU seeing groups of two on the track before - does this still happen or are the groups generally bigger now?

[Deleted]

Actually is it true that on LU, a driver of a train must warn trackmen by one blast of the whistle, and upon recognicion by the group proceed? If no wave is received then the op must sound the whistle twice, and on no signal from that then stop the train? I remember someone telling me this years ago.

[Colin]

I don't know what happened in the past, but this is how it works now:

On LUL: Train op see's workers on the track and blows whistle. Track workers move to a place of safety, then acknowledge the train.

On NR: Train op see's workers on the track and blows the whistle. Track workers acknowledge the train, then move to a place of safety.

In both cases, if the whistle is not acknowledged, the emergency brakes will be applied.

They have one opportunity to make an acknowledgment, there are no second chances!!

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Ermmm................things seem a bit safer now. I think the above post was the way things were around 1993.

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colin said:

On NR: Train op see's workers on the track and blows the whistle. Track workers acknowledge the train, then move to a place of safety.

Yeah, they always do that

[Deleted]

yeah but you drivers are never looking