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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2007 21:27:14 GMT
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Post by Chris M on Feb 7, 2007 22:37:04 GMT
That certainly makes the livery choice nice and easy!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 0:17:22 GMT
Those look even less comfortable that the wicker seats on the old New York Central EMU cars.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 0:21:09 GMT
Better than hard plastic, as most Metro systems now seem to have!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 2:38:05 GMT
Hong Kong, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, New York, Manila- all hard seats. Try lasting an hour or so.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 8:54:05 GMT
Hong Kong, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, New York, Manila- all hard seats. Try lasting an hour or so. The average journey time on the above systems would be far less than an hour (in fact probably well under half an hour), so hard seats arn't really a problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 9:52:22 GMT
True. But if one DID sit long enough (eg Boon Lay > Pasir Ris > Boon Lay in Singapore) , one would begin to feel the discomfort.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 10:05:28 GMT
True. But if one DID sit long enough (eg Boon Lay > Pasir Ris > Boon Lay in Singapore) , one would begin to feel the discomfort. But only train enthusiasts, or drunks would do the round trip of the entire line. |
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Post by Chris W on Feb 8, 2007 10:32:37 GMT
But only train enthusiasts, or drunks would do the round trip of the entire line. ....  Oh you mean the anorak brigade... the train spotters ;D ;D ;D of which I am one    Methinks that the car in the photo might be a bit wide even for our surface lines ;D ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 14:24:35 GMT
Didn't we convert an R stock car to Plastic Seats in the 60's, can remember seeing a pic somewhere of this car in gaudy red and green, with varnished wood surfaces...
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Post by Dmitri on Feb 8, 2007 14:45:26 GMT
That certainly makes the livery choice nice and easy! And note how vandal-proof are they  ! More seriously, this type of seating is the oldest, and only a handful of cars with those benches remain in Moscow region, mostly in remote places  . But only train enthusiasts, or drunks would do the round trip of the entire line. So did I - I've traveled along the whole line (north-western sector of the Big Moscow Circular Railway) just for fun. I was more leaning out of the window than sitting, however. Methinks that the car in the photo might be a bit wide even for our surface lines ;D ;D The car is ~3.6 metres wide - the widest mainline rolling stock we have (conforms to the Russian T gauge - paragraph 3.1.1). |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 14:49:15 GMT
3.6m width... what are we, 2.82m???
If only Brunel had got his way...
Oh, thanks Dmitri, for the piccy I linked from your pages!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 15:38:49 GMT
Longest you'll sit in the hard seats are 30 mins in Hong Kong, Manila really. The ones in HK's MTR are actually quite comfy. ;D
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Post by Chris W on Feb 8, 2007 17:59:59 GMT
Didn't we convert an R stock car to Plastic Seats in the 60's, can remember seeing a pic somewhere of this car in gaudy red and green, with varnished wood surfaces... ah-hem * clears throat before quoting from Underground Movement by Paul Moss* "Being considered at the time of C stock delivery was the use of glass fibre seating..... fitted experimentally to P stock car 014082. The idea was not taken further"Page 143 for those who might have this very good book, accompanied by a photo of course. Oh dear - how sad am I ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 19:45:27 GMT
Well, my excuse is that P is fairly close to R... thats my error!
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Post by Chris W on Feb 8, 2007 20:15:43 GMT
Well, my excuse is that P is fairly close to R... thats my error! Yeh... & there's a 'Q' in the middle - back to school for you my son to learn/relearn your alphabet You might be 30 now, but that doesn't mean you can start forgetting things ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by william on Feb 8, 2007 23:08:18 GMT
Well, my excuse is that P is fairly close to R... thats my error! Yeh... & there's a 'Q' in the middle - back to school for you my son to learn/relearn your alphabet You might be 30 now, but that doesn't mean you can start forgetting things ;D ;D ;D He did say "fairly close" but the difference between P and R stock is quite apparent to us over 30's ;D |
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Post by Chris M on Feb 8, 2007 23:45:05 GMT
and then there are us younger folk who were born after the introduction of D stocks  |
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! More seriously, this type of seating is the oldest, and only a handful of cars with those benches remain in Moscow region, mostly in remote places 
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