Can this be right?

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The official timetable suggests that the line runs a more frequent service on Sundays than Saturdays!

journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/user/AHF/JP08__0000319a.pdf

Is it a typo?

[towerman]

The full Sunday service is the same as Saturday except that it's from 12pm-8pm instead of 9am-9pm.

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Slight aside, but in my view the Jubilee needs the same service-frequency as the Victoria line.

Since the extension opened, this line seems to be crowded to rush-hour levels all the time. I've stood on the platforms and seen them fill up within seconds of a train leaving - and for theDMIs to show the next train at 4 mins away or longer even in the peak. Woefully inadequate for a high-use line of it's type, imo.

Even the addition of the extra coach (and this line should have been 7-coach from the opening of the extension, in my view) didn't seem to do much to alleviate the crowding on this line.

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The problem with the 7th coach that I believe it spurred additional growth owing to its huge advertising... had it not been advertised to such a degree (other than a passing mention as the line had to close - could have said it was for "line upgrades") - I reckon crowding would have been alleviated for longer than it did.

[21146]

I've noticed for years that the JLE service interval is far inferior to other lines. Why is this? Is it the signal spacing that was never designed for manually-driven trains?

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Swlines, I really doubt that - come on, I doubt that anybody's line of thought went like "oh, they added one more coach to train on the Jubilee line, let's use it!". I don't think that most people even heard about extra coach addition.

As for the frequency, it really is ridiculous - as a constant user of the line (during both peaks) I see 5+ minute times between trains all the time. I recently spend an hour at my local station waiting for a date, and it went like 4 - 5 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 5 - 5 - 1 - 1 - 1 all the time...

[astock5000]

Aug 15, 2008 22:00:01 GMT @innocentabroad said:

The official timetable suggests that the line runs a more frequent service on Sundays than Saturdays!

journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/user/AHF/JP08__0000319a.pdf

Is it a typo?

That link isn't working.

Aug 16, 2008 22:58:16 GMT @tubechallenger said:

The problem with the 7th coach that I believe it spurred additional growth owing to its huge advertising... had it not been advertised to such a degree (other than a passing mention as the line had to close - could have said it was for "line upgrades") - I reckon crowding would have been alleviated for longer than it did.

They should have realised that would happen if they advertised it all over a train.

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Aug 16, 2008 23:33:12 GMT futurix said:

Swlines, I really doubt that - come on, I doubt that anybody's line of thought went like "oh, they added one more coach to train on the Jubilee line, let's use it!". I don't think that most people even heard about extra coach addition.

Apart from that train that got a big colourful SEVEN CAR branding....

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In my view, LULs whole handling of the JLE phenomenin has been rather odd. Almost as if they've been continually taken by surprise by it's heavy usage from word go. I once heard they hadn't expected so many people to use it to travel from the north end of it through to London Bridge - as they thought people would continue to use the Thamellink from West Hampstead rather than just stay on the Jubilee!

[Chris M]

I also remember reading somewhere that they were surprised at the volume of passengers travelling all the way to Stratford. I got the impression they were expecting far more trains to reverse at North Greenwich than actually do.

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Aug 18, 2008 12:19:30 GMT Chris M said:

I also remember reading somewhere that they were surprised at the volume of passengers travelling all the way to Stratford.

It's bizarre, isn't it? I really don't understand how they've continually wrong-footed themselves over this line.