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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2008 23:30:10 GMT
This week I noticed that as part of renewals at Green Park station the original Jubilee tiling (red one with leaves) is being replaced with white bathroom-like tiling with blue stripe  Who is responsible for this atrocity? And is the extent of replacement known? Also, who the hell puts new tiling on top of the old one??? P.S. I'm talking about tiling in the middle level passage - when going out from Jubilee line first you pass one escalator, then this passage (or go to Victoria line to the left) and then second escalator. Also I think top level concourse is also being re-tiled like that... P.S.S. I will try to make photos of the old tiles tomorrow, but not sure if they will not be covered tonight. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2008 23:33:18 GMT
HUH? Why would they do such a thing!?! I liked that red tiling with the leaf patterns in it...
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Post by 21146 on Sept 5, 2008 0:00:29 GMT
They've been putting tiles on top of tiles since the mid-1980s and thus making corridors and platforms narrower and narrower
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2008 10:56:13 GMT
What?!  I know it was a bit dark, but come on, it was pretty! |
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Post by edwin on Sept 5, 2008 20:59:17 GMT
Who is hell bent on making every station white?
I understand for the Central line (because of CLR) but why on any other line?!?!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2008 22:55:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2008 23:33:24 GMT
Gaaah, so bland!  And I seem to have lost the photo I took of the leaves a few months ago. Drat.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2008 0:13:01 GMT
The new tiles look a lot larger than the old ones, so I wonder how they managed to stick them on top of the old ones - the new larger tiles will "cut the corner" more so there must be quite a gap behind the new tiles at their centres. I hope they won't be falling off in a year or two!
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Post by 21146 on Sept 6, 2008 9:06:28 GMT
There seems to be no consistency regarding the station refurbishment programme under Tube Lines/Metronet. Do they replicate the original (to a greater or lesser degree of authenticity) as at Tufnell Park, Highgate, Bethnal Green; do they replace a later scheme roughly like-for-like, as appeared to be happening at Mile End before it all ground to a halt, do they produce a pastiche of an original design as at Oxford Circus Central Line, or do they install a bland finish with no obvious connection with the line, station, or local area - as at Tower Hill (I mean, brown relief for god's sake!) and Shepherds Bush(C). What is going on? Is there any centralised control of policy? Hopefully the credit crunch will put a stop to any new acts of vandalism. I've always thought Blackfriars late-70s platform yellow/orange tiling is cheerful and typical of its time but no doubt this too will be replaced by more bathroom tiles in a few years' time.
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Post by 21146 on Sept 6, 2008 9:16:13 GMT
The new tiles look a lot larger than the old ones, so I wonder how they managed to stick them on top of the old ones - the new larger tiles will "cut the corner" more so there must be quite a gap behind the new tiles at their centres. I hope they won't be falling off in a year or two! One 'trick' seems to be to use different-sized tiles. So whereas in the past the whole area, both flat and curved, was covered by the same sized tile, now we have very large tiles on the flat area and small closely-spaced vertical tiles on the bends. Frankly, this looks appalling. |
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Post by railtechnician on Sept 6, 2008 11:23:50 GMT
They've been putting tiles on top of tiles since the mid-1980s and thus making corridors and platforms narrower and narrower No they have been doing it for longer than that, Embankment is a great example of an ever narrowing platform, the District platforms are much narrower in places now than they were in the 1970s and at that time there were narrower than built, the same is also true of the ticket hall there which once was at least double the floor space. In the late 1970s I worked on the last months of the Jubilee line Stage 1 at Baker Street, there the tiles on platforms 7,8 and 9 sit on a plastered EML mesh set off the original tiles on a metalwork frame by some 9-12 inches. This has been done elsewhere on the system for many years. You may or may not recall the discovery of the old Ovaltine posters on the original wall behind the tiles at the top of the escaltors during the 1980s Waterloo station refurbishment. It could not have happened if they had been removed rather than covered up many years beforehand! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2008 12:03:40 GMT
The new tiles look a lot larger than the old ones, so I wonder how they managed to stick them on top of the old ones - the new larger tiles will "cut the corner" more so there must be quite a gap behind the new tiles at their centres. I hope they won't be falling off in a year or two! To be fair this is a close up photo of new tiles - I don't think they are much larger than the old ones. However they will be falling off anyway, since they will be on a foundation of old tiles... |
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Post by londonstuff on Sept 7, 2008 16:56:02 GMT
I went past these today after getting kicked off at Green Park. The tiling design is grim, it really does look like bathroom tiling!
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Post by edwin on Sept 7, 2008 17:02:18 GMT
If they alter the platform tiling for the Jubilee line it will no longer be the only line to have all of it's underground stations in more or less their original condition...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2008 12:18:44 GMT
As of Saturday the leaves are still there. The white tiles are slowly creeping towards them though.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2008 15:38:34 GMT
a damn shame! I hate ppp refurbs
they'd better keep their hands off bond street
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2008 20:53:56 GMT
Today some of the orange tiles in that last picture were replaced with something grey (I imagine they removed unsound tiles). I bet there will be no leaves left in a week...
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Post by alstom1996 on Sept 10, 2008 22:58:06 GMT
Yes it's sad to see people who can actually design, have their work ruined! Has anyone seen the new tottenham court road design, very spacious but very ugly, and it looks like a huge bathroom!
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Post by 21146 on Sept 11, 2008 9:40:26 GMT
And why were Tower Hill's proto-Victoria Line bland grey tiles replaced by acres of bland white 'bathroom' tiles relieved only by strips of brown? Brown? What has that to do with the District Line or the local area? (Maybe it signifies the state of TFL or Metronet's finances - in the sh**?) Seriously, the old wooden slatted seats have been kept, all scuffed and not even re-varnished, as well as the original staircase red plastic handrails on what now leads to the exit (former) ticket hall. The perfectly serviceable dot matrix TD on the EB has been replaced by a newer one (again, why?); only this one shows "Terminates Here" when a train is approaching to terminate in the bay road! (Eh?)
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Post by edb on Sept 11, 2008 19:40:06 GMT
Frank Pick et al, I am sure are rolling in their graves...
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I know it was a bit dark, but come on, it was pretty!
