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Post by theblackferret on Jan 17, 2019 21:19:23 GMT
How many of those 13k ivory tiles would they need to replace with coloured glazed faence tiles to really replicate Tube history in the design?
I'd suggest 250 on each of the four elevations could pay tribute to both the CCH & ER & the long-gone CSL buildings.
Two elevations for each railway's frieze? Still leaves over 90% of light reflected!!
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Post by John Tuthill on Jan 17, 2019 21:21:07 GMT
Even by the standards of modern ventilation shafts, that is an ugly looking building. Under the 'Freedom of info Act' will they admit how much the "architect" was paid?  |
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Post by miff on Jan 20, 2019 8:17:15 GMT
What on Earth is that? 😵😵 It’s a cube. I rather like it, I’ve always liked tile clad buildings of all colours. Plenty of LUL ones that aren’t red and, considering it’s function, there is no need to disguise it as something it isn’t. |
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Post by superteacher on Jan 20, 2019 8:57:50 GMT
What on Earth is that? 😵😵 It’s a cube. I rather like it, I’ve always liked tile clad buildings of all colours. Plenty of LUL ones that aren’t red and, considering it’s function, there is no need to disguise it as something it isn’t. Just looks odd and out of place to me. |
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Post by AndrewPSSP on Jan 20, 2019 13:35:21 GMT
Looks like some sort of Pandora's Box, if you ask me. |
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Post by MoreToJack on Jan 20, 2019 14:32:45 GMT
It’s a cube. I rather like it, I’ve always liked tile clad buildings of all colours. Plenty of LUL ones that aren’t red and, considering it’s function, there is no need to disguise it as something it isn’t. Just looks odd and out of place to me. Green's stations looked odd and out of place. Holden's stations looked odd and out of place. &c; &c; Architecture changes and evolves, quite rightfully, and the spaces around change. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder - and personally I'd rather this than a bare concrete shaft like many - but ultimately it is for future generations to settle on the significance of current architectural style. |
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Post by superteacher on Jan 20, 2019 15:09:17 GMT
Just looks odd and out of place to me. Green's stations looked odd and out of place. Holden's stations looked odd and out of place. &c; &c; Architecture changes and evolves, quite rightfully, and the spaces around change. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder - and personally I'd rather this than a bare concrete shaft like many - but ultimately it is for future generations to settle on the significance of current architectural style. I suppose like most things, it comes down to personal taste. |
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Post by John Tuthill on Jan 20, 2019 16:25:57 GMT
Looks like some sort of Pandora's Box, if you ask me. If they want a sponsor how about 'OXO' on each of the public faces?  |
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 20, 2019 21:50:52 GMT
Looks like some sort of Pandora's Box, if you ask me. If they want a sponsor how about 'OXO' on each of the public faces? I've never seen a white OXO cube! ianvisits has lots of details about the planned building on his website, linked from the embedded tweet below: Personally, I think the render in the above tweet looks better than the one tweeted by HS2. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 20, 2019 22:56:11 GMT
I've never seen a white OXO cube!  |
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 21, 2019 3:55:26 GMT
I stand corrected.
I don't use stock-cubes at home (other brands are available) and in my memory I thought the foil colour matched the box and therefore the specific flavour. However after falling down an internet search hole I am now aware that (amongst other things I have learnt tonight) the foil is silver with the just the logo in the appropriate colour for the flavour.
That said. The proposed building is ivory coloured, not silver!
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Post by alpinejohn on Jan 21, 2019 9:42:47 GMT
Why do designers do this? Looking at the surrounding buildings - the proposed cube looks like another monstrous carbuncle is about to be inflicted on London .. with that brutal design presumably selected primarily to keep the cost down, as it certainly does not blend in with the adjacent buildings.
I am also astonished to think such a huge surface building is needed to provide ventilation only to "The Northern Line" or is it perhaps also being used to provide ventilation to the Northern HS2 tunnels? Is the existing surface station (being demolished) little more than a façade which already hides masses of complex air cooling plant used to keep the tube cool, and this cheapest way to hide the mess once the old station building is demolished?
In either case it seems crazy to inefficiently occupy a large area in a central London location. Surely air-conditioning plant does not need to occupy premium ground floor footprint. A dual purpose building (ideally in a style more similar to its surroundings) could be developed with the air-conditioning plant on the top floors, with the ground floor space rented out and earning TFL(HS2) serious income.
Finally if time is of the essence here and they insist on building a cube - why not be bold and just mirror the façade of the adjacent apartment buildings in effect create another Leinster Gardens. Should provide cabbies plenty of fun.
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Jan 21, 2019 10:10:49 GMT
I stand corrected. I don't use stock-cubes at home (other brands are available) and in my memory I thought the foil colour matched the box and therefore the specific flavour. However after falling down an internet search hole I am now aware that (amongst other things I have learnt tonight) the foil is silver with the just the logo in the appropriate colour for the flavour. That said. The proposed building is ivory coloured, not silver! Originally, the cube packaging was red (even if it was before a lot of our lifetimes) so you've not made a complete dog's breakfast of it.   |
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Post by John Tuthill on Jan 21, 2019 10:16:27 GMT
Why do designers do this? Looking at the surrounding buildings - the proposed cube looks like another monstrous carbuncle is about to be inflicted on London .. with that brutal design presumably selected primarily to keep the cost down, as it certainly does not blend in with the adjacent buildings. I am also astonished to think such a huge surface building is needed to provide ventilation only to "The Northern Line" or is it perhaps also being used to provide ventilation to the Northern HS2 tunnels? Is the existing surface station (being demolished) little more than a façade which already hides masses of complex air cooling plant used to keep the tube cool, and this cheapest way to hide the mess once the old station building is demolished? In either case it seems crazy to inefficiently occupy a large area in a central London location. Surely air-conditioning plant does not need to occupy premium ground floor footprint. A dual purpose building (ideally in a style more similar to its surroundings) could be developed with the air-conditioning plant on the top floors, with the ground floor space rented out and earning TFL(HS2) serious income. Finally if time is of the essence here and they insist on building a cube - why not be bold and just mirror the façade of the adjacent apartment buildings in effect create another Leinster Gardens. Should provide cabbies plenty of fun. With logic like that you'll never be an ego chasing architect or work for Tfl!! |
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Post by theblackferret on Jan 21, 2019 10:21:07 GMT
I stand corrected. I don't use stock-cubes at home (other brands are available) and in my memory I thought the foil colour matched the box and therefore the specific flavour. However after falling down an internet search hole I am now aware that (amongst other things I have learnt tonight) the foil is silver with the just the logo in the appropriate colour for the flavour. That said. The proposed building is ivory coloured, not silver! Originally, the cube packaging was red (even if it was before a lot of our lifetimes) so you've not made a complete dog's breakfast of it. Not before mine & being taught how to cook by my maternal grandmother in c 1955/6, before I started nursery school. And, interestingly enough, that's almost the blood-red (officially oxblood) colour of Green's original faence exterior tiling. Maybe the OXO logo something like thus: OXOon all four sides would indeed celebrate LG & LT! |
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Post by John Tuthill on Jan 21, 2019 10:31:50 GMT
Originally, the cube packaging was red (even if it was before a lot of our lifetimes) so you've not made a complete dog's breakfast of it. Not before mine & being taught how to cook by my maternal grandmother in c 1955/6, before I started nursery school. And, interestingly enough, that's almost the blood-red (officially oxblood) colour of Green's original faence exterior tiling. Maybe the OXO logo something like thus: OXOon all four sides would indeed celebrate LG & LT! Would be nice to think that the "architect" was reading our thoughts on the forum!  |
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Post by Chris L on Jan 21, 2019 19:47:36 GMT
Why do designers do this? Looking at the surrounding buildings - the proposed cube looks like another monstrous carbuncle is about to be inflicted on London .. with that brutal design presumably selected primarily to keep the cost down, as it certainly does not blend in with the adjacent buildings. I am also astonished to think such a huge surface building is needed to provide ventilation only to "The Northern Line" or is it perhaps also being used to provide ventilation to the Northern HS2 tunnels? Is the existing surface station (being demolished) little more than a façade which already hides masses of complex air cooling plant used to keep the tube cool, and this cheapest way to hide the mess once the old station building is demolished? In either case it seems crazy to inefficiently occupy a large area in a central London location. Surely air-conditioning plant does not need to occupy premium ground floor footprint. A dual purpose building (ideally in a style more similar to its surroundings) could be developed with the air-conditioning plant on the top floors, with the ground floor space rented out and earning TFL(HS2) serious income. Finally if time is of the essence here and they insist on building a cube - why not be bold and just mirror the façade of the adjacent apartment buildings in effect create another Leinster Gardens. Should provide cabbies plenty of fun. The reasons for the design are explained on the ianvisits link. The modern fans are enormous and are not air conditioning. |
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Post by miff on Jan 22, 2019 7:51:42 GMT
The Oxo tower is a much loved building. Let’s have a cube too.
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Post by trt on Jan 30, 2019 12:39:53 GMT
The Oxo tower is a much loved building. Let’s have a cube too. Well if they made them spherical instead of cuboidal, they would be rolling stock. |
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