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Post by superteacher on Sept 15, 2011 20:57:13 GMT
*sigh* they could have kept 3016 aswell and restored it properly Yeah shame about 3016 as it was the only unrefurbished car. |
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Post by SE13 on Sept 15, 2011 21:18:12 GMT
That about covers something I was on about in the chat area (Please apply if you aren't subscribed here to the chat bit).... Anyhow, the authorities always manage to find a way around absolutely anything, if they don't get it their way, it'll be a dispute, and it'll sit around for the next million years until someone decides which path to take at the least expense to get the result they wanted in the first place, to then dispute again. Meanwhile on the merry-go-round....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2011 11:32:33 GMT
*sigh* they could have kept 3016 aswell and restored it properly Yeah shame about 3016 as it was the only unrefurbished car. Was in a right state, cab smashed in and just a gutted shell with no floor due to crash before preservation, all the doors and windows missing also. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2011 14:53:13 GMT
Yeah thats true, after looking at pictures it looked as if all the seats were remaining though
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 5:06:32 GMT
Yeah thats true, after looking at pictures it looked as if all the seats were remaining though There was only a few orginal seat, most came off a bus. think there was enough for about half the carriage with orginal and that includes using tghe very rotten ones... there only 1/3 left so they should have enough seats. May go and take some pictures today if can get free |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 13:40:10 GMT
3016 should have been scrapped a long time ago. It was far too ambitious for the Pump house museum to do a repair, partial rebuild and restoration. It's sad to admit it, but it's true.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 15:29:01 GMT
Seem the Pump House is open this weekend as part of the Heritage Open Day weekend.
So a good chance to see 3186.
They are looking for people to work on it, from what I can see it get the graffitti off, and give to a good clean.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 15:48:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 9:38:18 GMT
How often is the Pump house open?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 9:40:34 GMT
How often is the Pump house open? Not very often due to the resizing of the site, think it may open sundays not sure, yesterday was my first time there for about 3 months. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 9:42:24 GMT
I've been checking the website for about a year now, with no indication of when it's open.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 9:50:25 GMT
I've been checking the website for about a year now, with no indication of when it's open. website for the site.. www.walthamstowpumphousemuseum.org.uk/ think is the current one but there a few about this seem to say open wednesday and thursday also... as I said I am not that up to date since the vehicle I helped on left that site. |
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Post by metman on Sept 18, 2011 22:55:22 GMT
Did you get any photos of the CP car there? What condition is it in?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 5:50:15 GMT
Did you get any photos of the CP car there? What condition is it in? Did not take any pictures of CP as fence was in the way and a Big MOD lorry. Condition very rough, cab missing a lot, the the bodywork needs a lot of skilled welding ( new skin maybe quick way to go.) From a distance looks OK but close up you can see it would need a great deal of work. Not sure if it on the list of vehicle that need to leave or not. Do hope it gets restored however either at the Pump House or else where as it a nice vehicle even if a little rough. If go again will see if I can get some Pictures |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 7:44:34 GMT
Thanks for the link mate, I must have been looking at the wrong site.
What vehicles have moved from the site, and which have been retained by the museum?
And secondly, do they require anyone to volunteer working primarily with the 67TS?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 10:05:23 GMT
Thanks for the link mate, I must have been looking at the wrong site. What vehicles have moved from the site, and which have been retained by the museum? And secondly, do they require anyone to volunteer working primarily with the 67TS? From site I know about has been various vintage cars Vintage Lorry 2-3 bus 2 Railways Carriage ( 3-4 more to go) Not sure what staying other the the 67 and a couple of buses. From my understanding they need someone to take on the 67, to clean it up and open to the public. Give them an email, there a link on the website somewhere to find out more. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 20:24:53 GMT
@harrowrail - Many thanks for the help.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 20:41:02 GMT
@harrowrail - Many thanks for the help. No worries, just aim to see this vehicle looked after.. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 21:09:54 GMT
Having a flick through the website, they seem to imply that interior fixtures and fittings from 3016 are to be recovered to be fitted to 3186 to return it to 'as built' condition. This could prove interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 3:48:17 GMT
Back on the subject of 3016, quick search in flickr for 'Walthamstow Pump House Museum' brought up this shot of 3016's interior. It seems to be in better condition internally then I initially thought. www.flickr.com/photo.gne?id=3848232372& |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 5:18:34 GMT
Back on the subject of 3016, quick search in flickr for 'Walthamstow Pump House Museum' brought up this shot of 3016's interior. It seems to be in better condition internally then I initially thought. www.flickr.com/photo.gne?id=3848232372&It had been used for filming so had been dressed by the flim crew. Note the fake carboard doors and ceiling panels Shot from the good end, the end they kept. Last I heard they plan to retore the 1/3 section of 3016 and put it next to 3186 to show how they changed... not sure what the website say they change plans all the time |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 8:33:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 9:00:03 GMT
The remaining 1/3 of 3016 is to remain, however the website seems to suggest that 3186 may have an original interior fitted.
As for the photo, I've been looking at it on my phone, which is pretty low res.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 9:17:06 GMT
The remaining 1/3 of 3016 is to remain, however the website seems to suggest that 3186 may have an original interior fitted. As for the photo, I've been looking at it on my phone, which is pretty low res. Do not see how they would have parts to restore both 3016 and 3186 to orginal. More logicial to restore the section to as orginal and leave 3186 is as now ( well cleaned up a bit) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 14:14:50 GMT
The remaining 1/3 of 3016 is to remain, however the website seems to suggest that 3186 may have an original interior fitted. As for the photo, I've been looking at it on my phone, which is pretty low res. Do not see how they would have parts to restore both 3016 and 3186 to orginal. More logicial to restore the section to as orginal and leave 3186 is as now ( well cleaned up a bit) Sorry, my bad. I misread what it said. 3016 is to be cleaned up and receive restoration to it's interior, whilst 3186 is to remain how it is, albeit cleaned up a bit. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 16:23:11 GMT
Just another question, is 3016 the unit involved in the collision at Northumberland Park that destroyed one of the trainwashers?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 17:21:05 GMT
Just another question, is 3016 the unit involved in the collision at Northumberland Park that destroyed one of the trainwashers? It was in a crash at Northumberland Park, think someone was hurt in the cab... other then that not sure. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 17:22:31 GMT
Do not see how they would have parts to restore both 3016 and 3186 to orginal. More logicial to restore the section to as orginal and leave 3186 is as now ( well cleaned up a bit) Sorry, my bad. I misread what it said. 3016 is to be cleaned up and receive restoration to it's interior, whilst 3186 is to remain how it is, albeit cleaned up a bit. Ah ok that makes sense, they need to source a number of parts to restore the 3016 section, doors, window ruber seal etc. Not sure where they get them |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 19:42:35 GMT
Interesting to note the mixture of original and replacement armrests in the picture, particularly the crudely repainted Victoria Blue one in the bottom right corner.
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Post by seaeagle on Sept 20, 2011 21:13:10 GMT
Just another question, is 3016 the unit involved in the collision at Northumberland Park that destroyed one of the trainwashers? No. 3016 was damaged when it hit the buffers at the depot when it was being used in a training exercise in about 1991ish. I know the incident you are thinking off, can't recall the units in that off the top of my head. |
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