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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 16, 2024 15:11:14 GMT
Call something the Suffragette line is akin to call something the Extinction Rebellion line as they employed rather similar tactics. Although the name was chosen because the last living suffragette lived at one end of the line, it is noticeable that Hollway prison is close to the other end, where many of them spent rather more time than they would have wished.
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Post by ijmad on Feb 16, 2024 23:08:52 GMT
My concern about the Suffragette line is that nobody can spell it
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 17, 2024 20:52:16 GMT
My concern about the Suffragette line is that nobody can spell it Nobody can spell Metroloptian either. Or Picadily Piccadily Picaddilly the dark blue one
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Post by melikepie on Feb 17, 2024 21:17:39 GMT
Nobody can spell Metroloptian either. Or Picadily Piccadily Picaddilly the dark blue one You missed Piccalilli
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Post by melikepie on Feb 17, 2024 21:21:22 GMT
Mildmay makes marginal sense to me as the NLL passes through Mildmay Park, with a former station there
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 17, 2024 22:03:36 GMT
Mildmay makes marginal sense to me as the NLL passes through Mildmay Park, with a former station there The TfL stuff issued on Thursday says it’s named after the now closed hospital, which the Line isn’t closest to.
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Post by roverlei on Feb 18, 2024 11:39:04 GMT
Call something the Suffragette line is akin to call something the Extinction Rebellion line as they employed rather similar tactics. It would appear that those tactics worked, too. Just sayin'.
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Post by trainwizard on Feb 18, 2024 12:14:10 GMT
Mildmay makes marginal sense to me as the NLL passes through Mildmay Park, with a former station there The TfL stuff issued on Thursday says it’s named after the now closed hospital, which the Line isn’t closest to. Mildmay Hospital is named after Mildmay Park (Reverend Pennefather and his wife, who set up the Mildmay Medical Mission that eventually became the hospital, were based at St. Jude and St. Paul's church in Mildmay Park) so melikepie 's point still stands a bit.
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Post by ijmad on Feb 18, 2024 13:36:34 GMT
It would appear that those tactics worked, too. Just sayin'. History is written by the victors
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Post by silenthunter on Feb 18, 2024 16:49:35 GMT
It would appear that those tactics worked, too. Just sayin'. History is written by the victors. Not always. A lot of the early history of the Eastern Front was written by German officers and most of what we know about Vikings comes from their victims. Anyway, all the line names are pretty memorable, which helps.
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Post by 35b on Feb 19, 2024 8:33:14 GMT
Call something the Suffragette line is akin to call something the Extinction Rebellion line as they employed rather similar tactics. It would appear that those tactics worked, too. Just sayin'. That point is debated; it is more complex than “Suffragettes campaigned for women’s suffrage, women’s suffrage happened, therefore the Suffragettes won it”.
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Post by theblackferret on Feb 19, 2024 10:29:20 GMT
The Mildmay Line is the only one I knew nothing about, but perhaps it's a good reason to reinstate a station at Mildmay Park, as it actually mentions a district through which the line passes.
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Post by silenthunter on Feb 19, 2024 21:04:47 GMT
Went through Upminster today, but didn't see any Liberty line stuff there.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 19, 2024 21:17:33 GMT
The press releases from Thursday say that the introduction of the renaming will be from “Autumn 2024”. Posters explaining the Line names are appearing at Overground stations.
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Post by silenthunter on Feb 19, 2024 22:14:41 GMT
The press releases from Thursday say that the introduction of the renaming will be from “Autumn 2024”. Posters explaining the Line names are appearing at Overground stations. Upminster is served by Overground services i.e. the Liberty line, but is a c2c station. I'll have to swing by Emerson Park and have a look.
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Post by ijmad on Feb 20, 2024 1:04:24 GMT
I assume that this may be reversed or possibly reconsidered if Sadiq Khan doesn't win re-election.
I won't speak to the politics of that, this is not the place, but it seems reasonably likely according to the polls that he will be in for another four years.
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Post by Chris M on Feb 20, 2024 4:54:20 GMT
I think it's pretty much guaranteed that if the next mayor is not Sadiq Khan that the project will be reconsidered. How seriously, and what the outcome of that consideration would be is anyone's guess (and would anyway depend on which candidate was elected). It is also not impossible (although I think unlikely) that the scheme could be quietly dropped even if Khan does get reelected. As the saying goes, a week is a long time in politics and there is a lot more than a week between now and the Autumn.
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Post by selbiehouse on Feb 20, 2024 22:35:59 GMT
The press releases from Thursday say that the introduction of the renaming will be from “Autumn 2024”. Posters explaining the Line names are appearing at Overground stations. Upminster is served by Overground services i.e. the Liberty line, but is a c2c station. I'll have to swing by Emerson Park and have a look. I noted a poster at Bushey today (Thursday 20/2/2024) announcing the Lioness Line. The first on-station reference that I have seen.
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Post by silenthunter on Feb 20, 2024 22:45:30 GMT
I couldn't clearly see anything at Emerson Park from the bridge, but I didn't go down onto the platform.
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Post by Chris L on Feb 21, 2024 7:35:00 GMT
The execution of the examples for the press launch raises several issues.
The existing Underground and Overground signage has 50mm colour strips at the top of the sign which extend around the edges.
The examples had a deeper strip which will cause problems when the new line names will appear on signage at interchange stations. Willesden Junction should be fun.
Looking at an existing line diagram at Hackney Central highlights the problem of space to accommodate the deeper top. The diagram will need to be repositioned or reduced in size.
The existing signs are vitreous enamel with a long life. Are the changes going to be done in vinyl?
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Post by ianr on Feb 24, 2024 21:32:18 GMT
There was a poster up yesterday on the platform at Emerson Park referring to The Liberty Line.
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Post by trainwizard on Mar 4, 2024 20:13:36 GMT
TfL confirmed in a FoI request that announcements narrated by Adrian Hieatt in this video, which shows a potential passenger experience with the new Overground line names, were one-off. Just putting this here because I've seen claims elsewhere on the internet that Hieatt will be taking over announcements on the Overground, which look like they've been debunked for now.
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Post by Alight on Mar 4, 2024 21:40:39 GMT
Yes, he is the in-house audio/video person for TfL so it is no surprise he was behind it.
I suspect they will bring Sarah Parnell back to re-record all the Tube ones, and sadly this will probably mean the Jubilee line anomaly too - for instance, she was used to re-record (and frankly butcher) the Canning Town announcements all for the sake of promoting City Hall.
The Northern line currently doesn't mention the Overground and so may just avoid it, however they could re-record Euston using Elinor Hamilton if they really wanted to. The Piccadilly line doesn't have any interchanges with LO, so Julie Berry won't be required.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 4, 2024 21:57:44 GMT
The Piccadilly line doesn't have any interchanges with LO, so Julie Berry won't be required. Caledonian Road and Manor House are shown on Piccadilly Line diagrams as interchanges with Overground
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Post by t697 on Mar 5, 2024 19:00:56 GMT
Maybe the 73TS announcements won't be updated, just 24TS.
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Post by silenthunter on Mar 10, 2024 12:16:36 GMT
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Post by brigham on Mar 12, 2024 8:58:39 GMT
Looks like diversity can be divisive...
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Post by davidb on Mar 12, 2024 16:41:26 GMT
'How The New Overground Map Colours Were Chosen' from Geoff Marshall:
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Post by Chris L on Mar 12, 2024 19:36:18 GMT
It's very obvious that Jon Hunter hasn't realised that existing signage uses 50mm colour headers so that his new deeper headers won't fit on interchange signage across the system.
I believe he was responsible for ditching the Underground signs manual that had worked well since the late 80s.
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Post by trainwizard on Mar 12, 2024 20:43:16 GMT
'How The New Overground Map Colours Were Chosen' from Geoff Marshall: The big news is that the new Rail & Tube map will have Elizabeth Line, DLR, Trams, and Overground represented with parallel lines. There's not much else significant: 2 rejected line names (Skylark sounds nice though), a refusal to completely rule out dividing the DLR (but probably no), an explanation of the lack of an orange line (which makes a lot of sense), and a look behind the scenes at the decision-making process for both colours and line names.
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